Z432 4 sale!!!!

[Cuong Nguyen]

Hi all,

found a Z432 for sale in Japan.

Yes, the one with the S20 engine (twin cam, 9.5:1 compression, triple Solex carburattors, 160 BHP @ 7000RPM)

Does anyone know how much does this price mean???

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Is it 498,000,000 yen

or 49,800,000 yen

or 4,980,000 yen

or 498,000 yen ????

HS30-H maybe you can help to decode the price and details????

[HS30-H]

Hi Cuong,

Don't get too excited. There are always two or three Z432s for sale at any one time in Japan. There are a lot more out there than you might think, as they were always expensive and were the "top of the range" S30 model, so they have been coveted and cosseted. They are a lot more difficult to own than a "normal" L-series engined S30 - and of course the prices are MUCH higher. Add to this the perception that they are not all that powerful, and expensive to make faster, and it means that they are like the elephants at the zoo; lots of people like to look at them but not many people find it practical to own one!

That price is 4,980,000 Yen ( about average of what they change hands for over there ) and if you were buying for "Export" ( rather than for use in Japan ) you would be able to get it a little cheaper than that, as the seller would not have to give you so much aftersales service. One of the problems of buying a car in Japan is the difficulty of transporting both yourself and the car around the country; its expensive! Buying a car a long way from the port where you will ship it from can cost an arm and a leg...............

The Japanese script could not be recognised by the software on this site ( at least not on my computer ) so it just looked like gibberish. However, it would probably be just the usual stuff describing the car. I noticed that the year of the car "S46" came out clearly though; this means the 46th year of the reign of Emperor Showa - which translates as 1971.

Cuong, are you secretly planning to get one eventually?! I know some of the best Z432 and S20 engine specialists in Japan personally, so could help out there. I have no idea about how to get this kind of money together without the wife knowing though.......

Alan T.

[Cuong Nguyen]

Hi Alan,

thanks for your prompt reply. No, I'm not planning to buy one (well, not in the near future anyway) but was just druelling at the amazing range of RARE S30 cars that are available in Japan.

That Z432 would cost around $83,000 AUD at an exchange rate of 60 Yen to a $1 AUD, and that is before transport fees to the shipping ports, shiiping and container fees, insurance, import duties and tax!!!

One day Alan, one day!!!

There was one Z432-R for sale also (orange with grey??? bonnet).

Did all the Z432-R come out with that colour scheme?

[HS30-H]

Hi Cuong,

Dream on, eh?

The Z432-R ( PS30-SB ) usually came in either the Orange, or 920 "Gold". I am painting my replica in 920 as its a really utilitarian colour and not many people seem to like it.

I have also seen them in the early Red ( not 110 ) and Silver, and there was at least one white one I think. They had the semi-matt Black bonnet because on the 432-R it was made from FRP ( with a gunmetal topcoat on the inside, which was applied by the company that made them ). They painted them black to help dissipate heat, but it was more of a sporty image thing than a real attempt to help cool the engine.

The ordinary Z432 ( PS30 ) on the other hand could be ordered in more colours - you could have all of the stock Japanese "Home" market colours if you wanted, but most owners chose Red, Orange, Gold or Silver.

What with Japan being so hot, darker colours have a definite disadvantage.

Glad to see you are "getting there" with your project, Cuong; I have been watching it develop in your photos. I think your feet might catch fire when you get on full boost!..............

Alan T.

[Cuong Nguyen]

Hi Alan,

my RB26DETT (now just a single T???) 240Z is now up and running.

It will be dyno tuned sometime mid week, providing that all goes well. Next it will go to the motor trimmers, and then it will be a home stretch from there (glass and doors fit out)

I'm still deciding what to do with regards to the rear Brembo brakes, as they don't have the provision for a cable operated handbrake (hydraulic is not road legal here)

How is your Z432 replica project going??? I'm dying to see some pictures of it, last I heard of it, it was down at the panel shop.

Cuong Nguyen.

[HS30-H]

Hi Cuong,

Good to hear that you are up and running. Maybe its a good idea that you won't be putting the windows in until after the dyno run. You might find that they pop out of the body with all that power!

Question: Did you buy your engine as a "known quantity" and then left it alone - or did you open it up and freshen it up with new rings / bearings?

No idea what you can do with the handbrake issue. I have seen mini-discs ( just for handbrakes ) with a tiddly little two pot cable-operated caliper on another car at some point. As far as I remember, this was mounted on the propshaft just before the diff. It looked rather like the disc setup I had on my 100 National racing Kart about 25 years ago!

My PS30-SB replica is STILL in the queue at the paint shop. They are really busy at the moment, and it looks like this will cause me to be a whole Summer behind schedule. I am using the time to gather more parts, and the engine situation is becoming more interesting. I might be going for a gear-driven oil pump kit ( the S20 was originally chain drive to the oil pump ) which is more reliable and has the bonus of sounding great too.

Tell us how you get on at the dyno - yes?

All the best with it,

Alan T.

[dohc]

Hey Alan,

I've got to ask, What do you consider the most collectible early Zed? An early 240Z or a S30?

Also I'm interested in racing a Datsun in the Targa events around Australia and NZ and as they run international rules on eligibilty I was wondering which would give the best platform to start from in a pre 1975 car?

The rules call for two classes (that I'm interested in anyway) and are very strict about mods and even anything to do with front air dams, and flares need to be standard (or at least an option). The other way to get around this is to prove a competitive history of the part (ie an airdam has to have been used in 1973 competition to be used on a 1973 Zed) Unfortunatly I can't find very much info at all from the Datsun Competition department and what exactly they produced.

To start off I'll just be using a 260Z 2+2 as it is cheap (the shell cost me $800) and if I kill it in my first outing it won't be a tradgedy

Down the track though I want a 240Z dirivitive that has a bit more class and can be raced competitivly in its division (1500cc - 2500cc)

Oh, and another thing. Which Zed models were produced prior to December 1981? Does the 280ZX fit in? or just the 280Z?

Cheers,

Ross.

BTW does anyone know how much you'd be looking at to import a Zed from the US as opposed to Japan? I know that their LHD but if I can find a thrashed donor car in Australia then I may work out up? Specifically a 280Z with a 5spd and the injection.....

[Zedrally]

To start off I'll just be using a 260Z 2+2 as it is cheap (the shell cost me $800) and if I kill it in my first outing it won't be a tradgedy

Down the track though I want a 240Z dirivitive that has a bit more class and can be raced competitivly in its division (1500cc - 2500cc)

Might be cheap, but it's grossly overweight.

If your thinking Targa Tas, then could I suggest you rethink and find a 240z or 260 2 seater shell to use.

Don't get me wrong as I use a 2+2 in Navigational events, this would probably be the only type of event that the 2+2 can be competitive.

Lot's of luck in your Targa endeavours, it's the pinnicle of Tarmac events and attracts a huge 240/260 audience.

[dohc]

Hey zedrally,

Have you competed in the Targa Tas, Targa NZ or Classic Adelaide? I'd be interested to hear what you thought of them and which setup works best!

As for the 2+2, I'm able to strip 10% of the factory weight out, so good bye back seats! I basically need a 240z so that I sneak into the lower class (1500cc - 2500cc) but until I invest a lot in a car I want to learn the ropes as I may change my mind (or do things differently) a second time.

Cheers,

R.

[Zedrally]

Nuh, those events are to fast for me.

I just charge around in the bush dodging trees in a 240Z {avatar}.

Unless you have a full race setup in a rally car then I wouldn't give anyone a chance of completing, let alone winning Targa.

Don't believe all you here about classes either, some 240's competiting aren't 2.4L 240's, Try a 280 bored out to 3.1L or there abouts. Until the scrutineers have the bottle to pull one of these apart and disqualify a crew or two then a "true" 240 will never win. Let this be a warning to all competitors as if I ever get to compete, I'll certainly be protesting all 240's entered!!!!

I have often tinkered with the idea of using a 2+2 shell in the forest. Technically it's longer wheelbase should be a bonus, but unless you can keep the weight to around 1000kg then I still can't see you being competitive.

[dohc]

Ok, here we go again.

What is the weight of a 260z 2+2 compared to a 260z or 260z coupe?

As for the scrutineers, don't bad mouth them too much, I'm on time control at the Classic Adelaide this year ! Although I must admit they drive me nuts at the track, picking on something different everytime! Even if it has been like that for 2 years!

Hmmmm, I wish I could find a 240z shell that would suit... any up your way?

Cheers,

R.

[Gav240z]

Hey Alan do you have any pictures of your 432 Replica or any other pictures of 432's? I only have one or 2 pictures of these cars and would like to see more of them.

I can't believe I'd be looking at $90,000 Aus for one of these cars.

I spose I'll be sticking to my $3000 240z.