MikeW Posted March 14, 2008 Share #13 Posted March 14, 2008 Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Total BS - likely from someone with no understanding of economics. If suddenly no oil was imported from the middle east to the US then two things would happen. All other suppliers would have to dramatically raise prices because they couldn't keep up with demand. However, the suppliers in the middle east would have to lower prices since their market would be suddenly diminished. The net effect of that would be other countries would start buying from the middle east and prices would balance back out due to market demands. All of the oil in the world is more like one big pot that some countries fill and other countries consume.Also, for those somehow convinced that we import all of our oil from the middle east we actually produce about 40% of our oil and import the remaining 60%. In terms of total imports more comes from Canada than all of the middle east countries combined. More comes from Venezuela, Algeria, and Angola than all of the middle east countries combined. More comes from Mexico and Nigeria than all of the middle east countries combined. http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonpup Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share #14 Posted March 14, 2008 Originally Posted by:Walter MooreI think he meant evaporative losses were happening WHILE you are filling the tank and the gas cap is open. Originally Posted by:zhead240he recommends not letting tank to get below 1/2 because of the air space in tank. Originally Posted by:MikeWQuote:Originally Posted by moonpup Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Total BS - likely from someone with no understanding of economics. I'm seeing alot of "he's" in the replys regarding the copy of this email I recieved and posted here in an effort to determine the accuracy of the information it contained. The email did not indicate who the author was, be it male or female. It was however, NOT ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadflo Posted March 14, 2008 Share #15 Posted March 14, 2008 The ethanol concept is certainly a great deal if you are a corn farmer, and it is very debatable if they aren't actually using more energy in terms of gasoline and fertilizer to produce that corn. Just another subsidy for those farmers. Pretty obvious why that one got through congress!But as Red Dog said they are looking at making it out of other things like cellulose waste (wood). My problem with ethanol gas blends are that they simply reduce the mileage you get. Something fishy there for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrududu Posted March 15, 2008 Share #16 Posted March 15, 2008 The ethanol concept is certainly a great deal if you are a corn farmer, and it is very debatable if they aren't actually using more energy in terms of gasoline and fertilizer to produce that corn. Just another subsidy for those farmers. Pretty obvious why that one got through congress!But as Red Dog said they are looking at making it out of other things like cellulose waste (wood). My problem with ethanol gas blends are that they simply reduce the mileage you get. Something fishy there for sure.One problem with corn is the amount of water used to grow it. In areas with low rainfall, this can deplete the ground water supply drastically if farmers start planting more corn. Ground water also takes an extremely long time to replenish. Ethanol isn't exactly and "greener" than gasoline anyways. Both oil and corn (and other crops) are carbon based, and create CO2 when burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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