Posted September 9, 200816 yr comment_259865 I find this fascinating. Rhetorically speaking, are early production models worth that much more than a later 240Z? For those of us here, perhaps that's true, but to an "average" buyer, I'd think there's not much difference.Recently, I had my 1972 for sale. It's in far superior cosmetic shape, and it's numbers matching. Yet, I couldn't yield more than $3,500 for mine (a blessing in disguise - I am happy to keep mine).For me, $5,200 seems quite a lot for this car. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 9, 200816 yr comment_259875 I find this fascinating. Rhetorically speaking, are early production models worth that much more than a later 240Z? For those of us here, perhaps that's true, but to an "average" buyer, I'd think there's not much difference.Recently, I had my 1972 for sale. It's in far superior cosmetic shape, and it's numbers matching. Yet, I couldn't yield more than $3,500 for mine (a blessing in disguise - I am happy to keep mine).For me, $5,200 seems quite a lot for this car.True, but for those who know and with that little bit o' extra coin in thier pocket....~Z~ Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 9, 200816 yr Author comment_259876 True, but for those who know and with that little bit o' extra coin in thier pocket.... ~Z~ Yes, of course. That's an observation I've made with the Z-car - there was another thread on this and I posted my thoughts. It's a tough car to sell because you either have to attract someone that really wants one or someone that knows them well. It's not like a classic 'Vette or even my E-Type - a casual buyer may jump to purchase one. That may even be defined by geography - here in NJ, you don't see that many of them. There were more MG-TDs (3) than there were 240Zs (mine, only one) at the last car show I entered FWIW. I meant this not as a knock - I am just surprised that $5,200 gets you this. I would think that's either a) too high or my Z is valued too low. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 9, 200816 yr comment_259884 Yes, of course. That's an observation I've made with the Z-car - there was another thread on this and I posted my thoughts. It's a tough car to sell because you either have to attract someone that really wants one or someone that knows them well. It's not like a classic 'Vette or even my E-Type - a casual buyer may jump to purchase one. That may even be defined by geography - here in NJ, you don't see that many of them. There were more MG-TDs (3) than there were 240Zs (mine, only one) at the last car show I entered FWIW.I meant this not as a knock - I am just surprised that $5,200 gets you this. I would think that's either a) too high or my Z is valued too low. Well put it this way, 1 you'd figured any crusted "one of the first few" of any modle of car will be considered more valuble than any more that came after it. 2 Your Z would be priced a few notches below it but, 3 in this case your Z should be priced on par with this rare find of #486 which brings us to, 4 theres still many of our S30 Z cars out there that the price remains relatively low consideirng you can always take the same coin for a turn key Z like yours and go and buy a comparitively priced Z of your own and build it the way you like to have it from the beginning. Not to say theres nothing wrong with a aready well built Z but most of our babies running around now started off as some ones project anyway now a days. The unrestored original ones are pretty coin and the restorable ones are like 2 or 3 grand ($2,000-$3,000) here in Califronia anyway. And most of those are decent shape turn key daily drivers to start out with with $4,000 to $5,000 netting you a clean, no problems mechanically sound and near if not flawless paint '76 to '78 Z last time I checked the papers. For example I paid $2,000 for my 99.95% rust free '77 with great Wine Red Metallic paint (original color repaint). Put $1,700 rebuilding the engine. And plan to spend another $5,000 to do it all my way the first time to put back on the road. We're talking 6-2 headers, new exhaust line, NOS center Counsel, carpet kit, MSA disc conversion, oil cooler, Nisimo fuel pump, Nismo oil pump, electric fan, Alum Radiator, quick steering knuckles and berings and bushings to name a few list of things. All figured if done right my Z should be worth 9k for a mod'd turn key car,.... or so one would think Wierd market our Z's are. ~Z~ Edited September 9, 200816 yr by WingZr0 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 9, 200816 yr comment_259885 It's an F500 car...first boatload, according to Carl's site. Truly, low VIN. That cachet gives you a couple thousand premium over any other project car, not sure what it'd get you after restoration since there are so many variables with quality of work, attention to detail etc. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 9, 200816 yr comment_259888 It's an F500 car...first boatload, according to Carl's site. Truly, low VIN. That cachet gives you a couple thousand premium over any other project car, not sure what it'd get you after restoration since there are so many variables with quality of work, attention to detail etc.True that for sure,But I still think the sheer number of our cars on the roads remaining throws us in a space time continueum flux.Theres at least 25 to 30 S30Z's in my area alone. I know of close to ten still bieng daily driving off the top of my head.Some seem to pop up cause some one saw one and had to go have one also themselves, just like this all primered 240Z on black Enkie mesh rims and black fender arches with what appears to be HKS exhaust pipe which turned up around a month and a half ago.And is new to the area since I now where the owner lives and all they used to drive where Hondas.~Z~ Edited September 9, 200816 yr by WingZr0 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 9, 200816 yr comment_259893 Oh, I don't know. What you put in it is not what it's worth to anyone but you. Especially in the case of a 77 like yours, or a 78 like mine. I have far less than half of that in mine and have been able to drive and enjoy it from virtually the first day I bought it. But many times more 280Zs were made than 240Zs. So, how do you define worth? I still contend that it's what someone is willing to pay. Lots of variables there but I've seen low number cars that I wouldn't want to own because of the way I use a car. I like to drive them, not look at them. I don't care what others think of them. There is no set 'book' on what a 240Z is worth, regardless of what anyone says. They just haven't reached that stature yet. And as much as people will argue the point, I don't think they will in my lifetime. The only reason I'd be interested in 488 is because I once owned it. I was the first new car I ever purchased. Just a pipe dream. Sentimental value. I wouldn't be willing to spend upwards of 20-30K or more just to relive those days. Edited September 9, 200816 yr by sblake01 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 10, 200816 yr Author comment_259948 Stephen sums it up well - I suppose if someone has to have an F500 car, they'll pay what I'll call a premium. FWIW - at the car show I attended, some people asked me what I'd sell my car for. I said about $6,500.00 - some thought that was reasonable. Being mindful that there aren't many running around in the rust belt, that might not be a bad deal. On eBay, I couldn't crack $3,500.00 (but considering eBay isn't the best for classic cars, I shouldn't be surprised). Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 10, 200816 yr comment_259950 FWIW - at the car show I attended, some people asked me what I'd sell my car for. I said about $6,500.00 - some thought that was reasonable. Being mindful that there aren't many running around in the rust belt, that might not be a bad deal. On eBay, I couldn't crack $3,500.00 (but considering eBay isn't the best for classic cars, I shouldn't be surprised). I don't know. I recently attended an estate auction in South Carolina, and there was a non-op '71 240Z on the block. It had very little rust and was supposedly a low-mileage car, but wasn't terribly original (had a '78 hood, aftermarket wheels, at least one repaint, 280Z seats, etc). The car ended up going for $7500. I was very surprised that the car commanded that kind of money, especially for a derelict vehicle, a total unknown with no maintenance records and a trashed interior. This is just anecdotal evidence, of course, but my sense is that the market is trending upwards at the moment. Edited September 10, 200816 yr by BRE-240Z Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 10, 200816 yr comment_259952 I'm really surprised that your car didn't break $3500 on Ebay, I don't know anything about it but it sounds like it doesnt need much....or does it? My 1973 went for $11,000 on Ebay, obviously not a low vin or anything speacial, just a very clean original car. If I had not just bought this other 73 I would seriously consider buying the 69 car that Carl posted. Think they will trade for a 73......... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 10, 200816 yr comment_259953 The previous three posts just fortifiy my contention. They are, like anything else, 'worth' what someone is willing to pay for them at the time. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 10, 200816 yr comment_259956 I agree that timing plays a very large part. If that person or those people (actual buyers) are in play at that time - you will get a good price, if not well - too bad, hope you can wait for a better time. Supply is still outweighing demand. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/29345-discussing-240z-values-especially-low-vin/#findComment-259956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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