Terrible Vendor--Datsun Parts

[hls30.com]

The "as delivered" photographs are here:

http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=3526

Have a look at them after reading the explicit description Al chose to advertise the car with.

Will

Edited February 14, 2009 by hls30.com

[280~Master]

Thanks for the update on the car. I hope Larry can get this thing in proper running order.

[hls30.com]

As a way of further illustrating the difference between the advertised condition of the car, and the actual condition of the car, I will be placing one of the photographs used to advertise this car with, followed by several of the pictures that I took of the same area to show the the details.

1) Please note the fitament in the alignment of the PS headlight coveras the car was delivered.

2) Please note the fitament of the front bumper, and the headlight Nacelle to the fender-the end of the bumper extends behind the pocket Nissan made for it in the sheet metal, the fender is not aligned to the Nacelle, and the end of the bumper is not attached as Nissan calls for in their undated Datsun Sports 240Z Factory Service Manual. The reason for this compound misfit will be shown later in the series on the engine compartment.

3) Please note the incorrect windshield wipers, the artifacts under the paint around the windshield weatherstripping, and the drip rail trim, also note the condition of the stainless trim held by the weather strip. and the pits and scratches in the windshield-and the tape residue on the weatherstripping-extra was paid to remove all of the trim and the glass and repaint the car to Concours specification.

4) Please note the condition of the door glass windlass, weatherstripping and the stainless trim holding it at the base of the window glass.

5) Please note the artifacts under the paint around the quarter window opening, and the improper assembly and lack of restoration of the quarter window frame. The seals in the quarter windows were replaced, at reassembly, the left side and right side corner pieces were swapped, and hard water stains proving what was done-and not done were ignored.

6) Please note the artifacts under the paint around the gas filler-this actually includes the two rubber bumpers that are there to cushion the door as it is closed. You can also not the tape line at the rear side marker-Extra was paid to remove all of the trim and the glass and repaint the car to Concours specification. The gas cap and attachment are silver instead of golden cad plate as they came from Nissan.

One thing I could not get to show was a picture of the inside of the passenger door. The Concours winning Restoration shop handling the documentation and correction of this car determined that a correct repair to the door was not cost effective given that the structural reinforcement inside the door was compromised, the door was tweaked(as further evidenced by a broken hinge-to be pictured in another series) as well as seriously dented, and the number of hours required to correct the sheet metal properly was more expensive than finding a new door here South Georgia.

The door is available for inspection and is being held.

Will

Edited February 16, 2009 by hls30.com

[280~Master]

Will That sounds great would love to see side by side pictures of Al's work.

[Stickerman]

I guess the rule of letting this thread die does not apply to Will? Delete the posts from the ones that question, but not the ones that accuse?

[Sailor Bob]

It's not a court of law, merely an infomation thread for those who are familiar with Zs. I believe it is important in that it shows all Z owners and potential buyers (who use this site) the pitfalls of buying over the net (sight unseen).

If there is more information in this story, I personally wish to read it and look forward to seeing all the stones overturned.

Not too interested in seeing one of our more reputable members raked over the coals though.

[sblake01]

True as all of that may be, the point has long since been made.

[Carl Beck]

I believe it is important in that it shows all Z owners and potential buyers (who use this site) the pitfalls of buying over the net (sight unseen).

If there is more information in this story, I personally wish to read it and look forward to seeing all the stones overturned.

I agree - the Subject of the thread is clearly marked and I fail to understand why people no longer interested in following the details - don't simply quit following the thread.

The details are important to understand and educational for people new to the community. This is a very good example of what drives the "value" and the "costs" of different examples on the market.

FWIW,

Carl B.

[Carl Beck]

I guess the rule of letting this thread die does not apply to Will? Delete the posts from the ones that question, but not the ones that accuse?

Letting a thread die due to a lack of interest, and killing it because someone else wants to - are two different situations.

Personally, I agree with letting the thread die if and when everyone contributing to it, or wishing to follow it, does so.

Honest questions as to the motivates of any Post or Reply should be allowed and answered. That should not be carried into personal arguments or individuals attempting to moderate the discussion when they weren't ask to do so. If honest questions were ask and answered - they shouldn't have been deleted.

FWIW,

Carl B.

[cunniwj]

I second Will but since Carl comment I guess I'll third.

[Mike]

I'm a bit confused as to why this thread is such a huge problem... A classic Z was sold through Ebay. If the new owner wasn't happy with his purchase, he should be contacting Ebay or the proper facilities to get this resolved. Posting all of the "evidence" on this site and public bashing isn't something we want to be known to promote. I'm going to close this thread now. Thanks.

Mike

PS: The updates to the car do look great! Even if there is some purchase 'drama' I think the final product looks pretty awesome!