Vintage Z for sale

[Arne]

One last thought regarding the A/C. Some of the comments about wanting A/C in a Z do have merit. But I think we need to remember that cars of this caliper are NOT typically used as daily - or even weekend - drivers. This car will sit in a climate-controlled garage somewhere, and will come out for shows and such. For this purpose, A/C is not just redundant, but not wanted at all.

[mgmoreau]

It only helps to increase the value of the relatively few unmolested Z's out there. It will probably remain somewhat of a garage queen. Most of us, however, enjoy our Zs for a different reason. We enjoy driving them. To me, that is what it's all about. While I am certain that the value of my car will increase over time, at least I will enjoy my investment along the way, from the driver's seat.

Adam,

I totally agree that the real joy of owning these Z's is driving them. It also is gratifying to see peoples reactions when you are driving a 240Z in decent shape. I have had people pull me over to talk about my car and ask if I would be interested in selling her. The most common comment I hear is "I remeber that car, so and so had one, it was a great car, and a lot of fun to drive". I always repsond I couldn't agree more with you.

As beautiful as this vintage Z is, if I could only have one, I would not want to own a trailer queen that I would be afraid of taking out for a spin. If I had the money and space, I am not saying I wouldn't love to buy her because I would in a heartbeat. Having said that I am glad that I found a Z that I could afford and love to drive. According to the previous owner my car has 258,000 miles on her! My goal is to reach 500,000 miles while keeping her in mint condition.

[Oiluj]

Collector / historical / investment value aside, why wouldn't someone "drive" this car.

The final sales price of this essentially "new" car will likely be comparable or below the cost of a newer sports car that lacks the classic appeal of the Z. It's a pretty good deal.

I'm not saying I'd drive this car daily, but if I my wife were willing to let me buy it, (unlikely), I would consider drving it to local shows and the occasional Sunday drive.

While our early Z's have appeal as objects d'art, in my mind, these cars were made to be driven...

[five&dime]

^ Absolutely. Why buy a car if you never drive it??? I am still considering pursuing the famous 510 known as Miss Dottie. The current owner and I have been talking about a possible trade deal. He says he doesn't like the car b/c he can't drive it with 36k original miles.

I would have no problem whatsoever driving Miss Dottie

I don't even really consider resale when I buy a car. Somehow I still end up making money on 1/2 the cars I sell

Edited October 31, 2008 by Zero Z

[Arne]

Don't get me wrong, guys. I'm with you on the 'driving' part. I too want to drive my Z, which is why my car - despite its very original condition - will never be even a #2 car. The best I can shoot for is a high #3, because I enjoy driving it too much. Mine even gets driven in the rain occasionally. Gasp!

But there is a place in the car world for those people who can afford - and want - to keep a special car in pristine condition. That's what this car is, and how it will probably stay. The people who do this typically have very nice - but still lesser - examples that they drive when they can.

[bpilati]

And in answer...

Quite so. I could not care less about having A/C in a 240Z. And most owners of fairly original 240Zs do tend to feel this way, in my experience.

In fact, when shopping for a 240Z of this type, the LACK of A/C is a plus, not a minus. People looking for this type of car want one that hasn't been mucked with.

I would probably go along with you on most everything original except AC. The Z is a hot SOB in the summer, even with all the ventilation going.

[Arne]

I've found I'm good in mine into the mid-90s, just opening all the windows. Shoot, that's better than riding in the back of my parents' no-A/C station wagon on vacations all over the West back in the '60s. Maybe we were all tougher back then...

[five&dime]

Isn't that why we all have daily drivers?

[geezer]

Yeah, everyone is spoiled today. In 1970 AC was a rarity around here, unless you had a new, top of the line land yacht. AC for housing was just coming into vogue. The first car I had with AC was a 1978 LeBaron. Listen to me, sitting up here in Canada waiting for snow any day now.

One of the most appealing things about my Z is the shear simplicity. It is not loaded down with luxury or modern technologies. It has just the basics to provide the driving experience I'm looking for.

A collector car of this type is more appealing to me without AC. If I had this car, I don't think I could resist driving it on occasion. It would actually benefit the car to help keep it maintained if its driven sparingly.

[Mike B]

At $39,500.00 its a bargain. There is nothing close in the Classic, Collectable and Special Interest market at anything near that price.

Carl, I don't think I have ever seen a VZ sell on ebay for more than $30K, but I could be wrong. If I recall correctely, over the last couple of years before that they were listing/selling around the $25k mark. The one discussed in this thread a few months ago was listed at $30k, but I think wound up selling for a little less. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30568&highlight=nissan+program

Is the car for sale now in that much better condition, or has the market for them gone up another $10K in the last couple of months?

-Mike

[mally002]

Must......not.......click.........buy......it.......now..............

2008......$39k

2018......$60-75K

[oskidunker1]

For the time I owned the car, about 5 years. I am attracted to this car because it is the same color as the one I had then. I can't afford it now, but I will some day soon.I would buy this, if I could and I would drive it.But I would install after market air, as the seller suggests.

I also had a 1970 510 and it had air and it worked great. In High School I had a 1962 T Bird and it also had air.A/C has been around long before 1970.

Edited October 31, 2008 by oskidunker1