Questions about 2+2s

[Carl Beck]

Keep the 240SX and put an L28 turbo in it. The main thing Nissan did wrong with the 240SX was to vastly underpower it for the time. If they had come out with a real screamer they could have kept a much larger share of the youth market.

FWIW

Carl B.

[Hype]

Whoa, hold your horsepower there! The KA24 is a stout motor that has a lot of ponies that Nissan left on the table. If you help it out from its restrictive ECU programming and intake manifold, it has many strengths that shine through (including more valves than an L28:p) The youth market is now all over this car, many of which foolishly (IMHO) dump the stock engine for a JDM import. The press was lukewarm on it at the time, but the test of time has shown the strength this car has. It was the "drift tax" on the 240SX that got me to take a look at the Z car in all of its forms, and that interest has never left.

Granted I dont have L-series experience but it sounds like the oversquare L24 is more to my liking. If I keep the 240SX, I already have another KA block on a stand ready for disassembly and rebuild! Should I happen on a clean S30, I would strongly consider an RB swap. Gotta love Nissan/Datsun, they have a pretty friendly interchange between cars. (side note: during my trip to Japan this January I took a tour of their Tochigi plant - interesting stuff but I may have to make a new thread to get to it all!)

Can anyone offer up any information on 74/75 MY 2+2s with t-tops? I think I'm just asking for too much there

[Carl Beck]

Whoa, hold your horsepower there! The KA24 is a stout motor that has a lot of ponies that Nissan left on the table.

Agreed - The KA24 makes a good swap into a PL510. Throw a turbo on it and you've got something fun. But then the old 510 weighs less than 2000lbs.

The press was lukewarm on it at the time, but the test of time has shown the strength this car has.

I went and drove one "at the time" it first came out - it could have been a great car - but it was a slug. Never went back and drove the later models. I have always liked the styling, and the suspension. It was priced right when first introduced as well.

I drove one with the RB swap - that was fun.

Can anyone offer up any information on 74/75 MY 2+2s with t-tops? I think I'm just asking for too much there

No T-Tops from the factory until the 280ZX in 79.

FWIW,

Carl B.

[Mr Camouflage]

Yep Steve, the rear finisher panels are different, though the tail lights are exactly the same. The back of the 2+2 is wider, hence the different finisher panels. Also the rear bumper is wider than the 2 seater.

[z74z90]

So glad to hear that the 2+2's are liked when orange. Incidently, the 260Z 2+2, AT, was the absolute "slowest" Z car ever made...sad but true.:laugh:

[=Enigma=]

AT + Flat Tops + 300lbs = slowest Z ever.

Although, the 280ZX 2+2 at roughly 3000lbs w/132HP couldn't have been much faster.

The more I look at the early 2+2s the more they grow on me, but not the 280ZX 2+2. No disco for me thanks.

[Carl Beck]

Funny - I always thought that Nissan did a much better job of styling the 2+2 with the 280ZX. The 260/280 2+2 always looked a little bulbous to me... Of course the best job on the 2+2 was the 90+ 300ZX 2+2... you have to look closely to notice it being different than the coupe.

FWIW,

Carl B.

[=Enigma=]

What's funny is that I had no idea they even made a Z32 in 2+2 form.

[Hype]

Although, the 280ZX 2+2 at roughly 3000lbs w/132HP couldn't have been much faster.

I believe at some point they went away from gross measurements to SAE net, but I wonder what an apples to apples comparison with the power of the previous motors would look like. Can anyone dig up dyno graphs for L24, L26 and L28[e][t]?

What's funny is that I had no idea they even made a Z32 in 2+2 form.