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14 hours ago, Patcon said:

So is the yellow car at fault there for not holding the line?

 

14 hours ago, SteveJ said:

That's the way John and Randy saw it. It was Brian Johnson driving the car.

Seemed to me that the yellow Chevron (Johnson) moved to the right to avoid the stricken car on the inside. Why would he have to 'hold the line'? Was it a formation lap? 

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No, it's not a formation lap, but these are vintage cars and there is always some courtesy involved in this type of racing. You don't normally start running tight lines until the field stretches out some. He should have know the 46 was on his inside but he took the short line. Every one else got around the stopped car on the inside, many of them two wide. The Daytona actually runs really close to it, could have probably been three wide there. There is really no money in this racing, just adventure and bragging rights. That seems like a silly reason to run so hard you tear up a bunch or historic cars...

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5 minutes ago, Patcon said:

No, it's not a formation lap, but these are vintage cars and there is always some courtesy involved in this type of racing. You don't normally start running tight lines until the field stretches out some. He should have know the 46 was on his inside but he took the short line. Every one else got around the stopped car on the inside, many of them two wide. The Daytona actually runs really close to it, could have probably been three wide there. There is really no money in this racing, just adventure and bragging rights. That seems like a silly reason to run so hard you tear up a bunch or historic cars...

I'm familiar with historic racing.

Your last sentence could (should) apply to Morton just as much as anyone else, and he certainly wasn't holding back when he overtook those two Porsches during a switch from LH to RH side of the track after the green light.

There was a car spinning off on the inside of the first corner, then plenty of smoke/steam ahead on the left and unsighted cars were moving right to avoid the slowing car from which it was coming. Morton was overtaking cars whilst they were slowing for the incident(s) in the inside  and there should have been waved yellow flags/yellow flashing lights at that point. The yellow Chevron started moving right while Morton was still behind it, the Mustang ahead was on the grass, and yet Morton was still on the throttle through the second corner and basically drove into the Chevron. 

I have the utmost respect for Morton and yes the whole incident played out quickly, but this looks like it is just as much his fault as anyone else's.  

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30 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

I'm familiar with historic racing.

Your last sentence could (should) apply to Morton just as much as anyone else, and he certainly wasn't holding back when he overtook those two Porsches during a switch from LH to RH side of the track after the green light.

There was a car spinning off on the inside of the first corner, then plenty of smoke/steam ahead on the left and unsighted cars were moving right to avoid the slowing car from which it was coming. Morton was overtaking cars whilst they were slowing for the incident(s) in the inside  and there should have been waved yellow flags/yellow flashing lights at that point. The yellow Chevron started moving right while Morton was still behind it, the Mustang ahead was on the grass, and yet Morton was still on the throttle through the second corner and basically drove into the Chevron. 

I have the utmost respect for Morton and yes the whole incident played out quickly, but this looks like it is just as much his fault as anyone else's.  

That is a valid argument

Although from the sound of it Morton is off the gas when he comes up on Brian

 

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