Posted March 21, 200916 yr comment_278323 My rear control arm bushings will be replaced soon (either by myself or the mechanic). I want to be able to specify which kind should be put in. From what I have read online, they make Rubber (original) and Polyurethane - the latter holding up much better than rubber in the long run. What are the ideal type of bushings to have installed to replace the 33+ year cracked/worn rubber bushings?Input is appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 21, 200916 yr comment_278342 You'll probably want different kinds of bushings in different places. Urethane can make the suspensing feel stiffer, and can tighten up the steering too, but I've read people here reporting that urethane bushings on the T/C rods were the likely cause of them breaking. so use rubber on that (for street use.) But it seems that urethane in the rear contol arms have good results, though a little stiffer. Runbber for things that need to flex more,liket he T/C rods, and urethane for things that flex less, like steering rack & control arms, The rear bushings are a big &%%#$! pain to get out. One source says to use a press, another says to burn the rubber out, cut a slot then chisel... IMO, that's the tougher choice, and you need to have a mechanic you trust or one that knows Zs. Edited March 21, 200916 yr by TomoHawk Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-278342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 21, 200916 yr comment_278349 All depends on the way you drive, the ride you like and the originality you'd like to keep or don't mind losing.Obviously, Urethane IS stiffer than rubber, new rubber is stiffer than old rubber, and old rubber is squishy and likely decaying. Worn rubber can cause other parts to wear faster than normal. SO the final say so is up to you. Urethane is a great substitute and there is plenty of it for all around your whole suspension. Urethane is also typicaly cheaper than Real NOS rubber parts. let your budget do the talking.And Tom is correct, don't use Urethane on the Torsion rods. There are reports of them snapping under hard steering, but those reports are typically from Racers and Cone dodgers.Dave. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-278349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 21, 200916 yr comment_278354 Does anyone package a complete kit of rubber bushings (like the urethane kits commonly seen for sale)? I'm looking for a set, but have not seen any after looking around for quite some time. (I have a '72.)Thanks! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-278354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 21, 200916 yr comment_278369 Does anyone package a complete kit of rubber bushings (like the urethane kits commonly seen for sale)? I'm looking for a set, but have not seen any after looking around for quite some time. (I have a '72.)Thanks!I would like to know that aswell.Chris Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-278369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 21, 200916 yr Author comment_278381 I found these on EBAY. (Urethane)http://cgi.ebay.com/DATSUN-240Z-280Z-Rear-Control-Arm-Bushings-14-301B_W0QQitemZ360129090195QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item360129090195&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50Here's the MSA page you can find the rubbers.http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/CTGY/SSSC01C02Does anyone know the difference between the INNER and OUTER control arm bushings? From the photos, I have seen what appear to be larger and smaller bushings that come in the set. Edited March 21, 200916 yr by mikewags Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-278381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 21, 200916 yr comment_278385 I got my complete set from Black Dragon Auto for my my 1974 260Z. Just remember to use plenty of grease. You can order online at www.BlackDrangonAuto.com. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-278385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 24, 200915 yr comment_284579 I realize this thread is kind of old--and you may have already taken care of this--but I came across another source for bushings.http://www.zcarsource.com/content/p/9/catid/7461_7478/SUSPENSION_BUSHING_KITSThey have both rubber and urethane--rubber runs about $150 more. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-284579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 16, 200915 yr comment_292055 I need to get sway bars and bushings for my car... hmm Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-292055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 20, 200915 yr comment_292423 http://www.suspension.com/nissan240z.html Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-292423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 20, 200915 yr comment_292428 I recently purchase all the OEM rubber bushings for the 240Z. Here are the part numbers and quantities needed:PART PART NUMBER QTY NEEDEDFRONT CNTRL ARM BUSH 54535-E4100 2FRT TENSION ROD BUSH 54476-21000 4FRT SWAY BAR END LINK BUSH 56112-W5000 8FRT SWAY BAR TO FRAME BUSH 54617-21002 2RACK BUSH/DRIVERS 54445-E4101 1RACK BUSH/PASS 54444-E4101 1FRONT STRUT BUMP STOP 54050-E4101 2FRONT STRUT MOUNT 54320-E4100 2REAR CONT ARM INNER BUSH(FRT) 55554-E4100 2REAR CONT ARM INNER BUSH(REAR) 55555-E4100 2REAR CONR ARM OUTER 55541-E4100 4REAR CONR ARM OUTER SPINDLE 55540-N3701 2REAR CONR ARM OUTER SPINDLE NUT 08912-8421A 4DIFF MOUNT 55415-E4102 1REAR STRUT BUMP STOP 54050-E4101 2REAR STRUT MOUNT 54320-E4100 2MUSTACHE BAR BUSHING 55476-N4300 2STEERING COLUMN COUPLER 48073-78500 1Keith Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-292428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 20, 200915 yr comment_292429 I think you're more likely to see TC rod failure due to stiff bushings with soft springs than with hard springs. The issue is that the bushings don't compress, so it puts a lot of bending load on the rod right where it has a turned down shoulder where the bushings sit. Bending load and square shoulder = bad. But the softer the springs, the more the suspension moves when it hits bumps, the more the TC rod gets worked. For example, if you had really really stiff springs and the suspension only moved 1", then the side forces on the TC rod would be a lot less than a stocker which can fairly easily blow through 5" of travel on one bump.One option here is to put the urethane bushing in the front and a stock rubber bushing in the rear. The front one takes the braking loads, the rear is really just along for the ride, so putting the rubber in the rear increases the flexibility without affecting the performance under braking. The best solution for the TC rods is a rod end in my opinion, because it allows free motion with very little resistance. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/31249-bushings-which-are-best/#findComment-292429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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