Have you been watching - cheap cars?

[Carl Beck]

Tom Barber disagrees completely...with Mr. Bruce Augenstein. I watched the debate via 40 or so e-mails between the two... it got nasty to say the least.

Nonetheless in the interests of hearing both sides:

See: http://wotid.com/dyno/content/view/18/37/

FWIW,

Carl B.

[doradox]

You can't argue with the math. If you don't turn the left side of the HP=torque*rpm equation into a value greater than zero you don't move. Period. A force (torque) alone does not do work, you need to actually move. Power, (force*distance)/time, tells you how fast your engine can do work. The more power you have the more work you can do in a given amount of time. So if you want to fast zero to 60 times you need power.

Steve

[padam07]

I think it is pretty amazing how just in the last 10 years cars have stayed pretty much the same price or have gotten cheaper. I own a 1998 Nissan Maxima SE that my parents purchased brand new. I still have the window sticker and the MSRP for a 1998 Nissan Maxima SE was a tad over $30,000. You can get a really nice car today with a MSRP of $30K today compared to my car.

[jrecee]

I think that shows how the Z has strayed from being an everyman's sportscar. Obviously the 370z is a good deal for the money but they no longer have a car like the 240.

I saw pricing of the 370 convertible starts at around 38k! That's luxury car territory.