January 21, 201015 yr Author comment_306920 Out of curiosity, will adhesive be applied to the vinyl letters as well so we're not relying on the surrounding mylar to hold up the letters?Adam, I don't believe so, no. But from my experience with the first true sample (still on my car's windshield, BTW), I don't think that will be a problem. The newer adhesive seems more than adequate to the job. Plus if you've squeegee'd it thoroughly, it appears to me that the vinyl has done the static cling action and really doesn't want to sag. I'll know more about that soon, when I remove this sample. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-306920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 21, 201015 yr comment_306921 Sign vinyl has adhesive on the back, so you are good there. It looks like he is using 2mm vinyl, so the letters are only 2mm thick, you will hardly notice they are not silk screened. Nice job! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-306921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 21, 201015 yr comment_306938 Stickerman, I assume you mean 2 mil as in 0.0254 mm or .002 inches and not 2mm. That would kind of suck. Edited January 21, 201015 yr by =Enigma= Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-306938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 21, 201015 yr Author comment_306956 Sign vinyl has adhesive on the back, so you are good there. It looks like he is using 2mm vinyl, so the letters are only 2mm thick, you will hardly notice they are not silk screened. Nice job! Stickerman, I assume you mean 2 mil as in 0.0254 mm or .002 inches and not 2mm. That would kind of suck. I'm with Adam on this - no way the letters are 2 mm think! Maybe thicker than 2 mil, but not much. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-306956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 22, 201015 yr comment_307034 2 mil is old school machinist talk where I used to work. They always meant 2 thou (.002") Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-307034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 22, 201015 yr comment_307052 From Answer.com.How thick is 20 mil?In: Length and Distance [Edit categories]Dakota UltrasonicsUltrasonic Thickness gauges, Flaw Detectors, and Bolting equipmentwww.dakotaultrasonics.comAccording to Answers.com, a mil is: "A unit of length equal to one thousandth (10-3) of an inch (0.0254 millimeter), used, for example, to specify the diameter of wire or the thickness of materials sold in sheets."So; 20 mil = 20 thousandths of an inch = 0.020 inchesOr; 20 x 0.0254 millimeters = 0.508 millimeters = 0.05 cmBut... According to another source there is more to the story:"All papers are measured in two ways. One is referred to as the paper weight, the other is the actual thickness of the paper. Paper weight is generally measured in 'grams per square meter' (gsm). Paper thickness is measured in 'mils' which is short for thousandths of an inch. Paper weight and paper thickness often go hand in hand, BUT because some papers are denser than others they may be heavier than a similar thickness paper. For example, two manufacturers may list a weight of 300gsm, but the papers may have a different thickness because they have different densities.Paper thickness is generally listed as 10mil or 15.5mil and this is equivalent to .010 inches or .0155 inches respectively. To give this some perspective, a human hair is only 2 mils. This is measured with a digital micrometer."I would say that the letters are very thin. Hope this helps? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-307052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 23, 201015 yr comment_307148 Your average binder paper or printer paper is usually 3 to 5 thou (.003-.005"). Suffice it to say, that's thin stuff Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-307148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 23, 201015 yr comment_307162 Yes 2 mil, it was a long day. Vinyl for signs starts at 1.5 mil and goes to about 4 mil, thinner is better. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-307162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 28, 201015 yr Author comment_307728 Final order and logo mix has been confirmed. All units are pre-sold, no additional units will be available.Final count:240-Z - 38280-Z - 4DATSUN - 18 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-307728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 201015 yr Author comment_307889 Production will begin next week. Estimated to ship to me around 2/5/10. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-307889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 30, 201015 yr comment_307917 Great work, thanks Arne! I can't wait to see them and make my friends jealous Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-307917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 5, 201015 yr Author comment_308657 We're close. Looks like we'll miss the previous ETA by a day or two. Final payment has been mailed, and the product should be shipped to me early next week. I'll then spot check a couple for quality and begin shipping. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/32947-mylar-logod-sunshades-completed/?&page=16#findComment-308657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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