Oldest Z

[mgmoreau]

Here are some more pictures of #13 The owners are pictured with Jim Frederick who traveled with Carl Beck from Florida to attend this show. The green Z is serial number 171 owned by the same couple. They have one other low vin# Z which was not brought to the show.

Edited September 21, 2009 by mgmoreau

[Mike B]

Hopefully they will preserve just the way it is. It's a time capsule...

I would at least get rid of the stuff that is not correct, like the aftermarket carpet on the transmission tunnel, kick panels, and rear shock towers. I'm not sure how original the paint is. The hood is not original and the paint on the underside is peeling off in sheets. Besides the black rocker paint that Johnny'O noted, the rear hatch ledge and taillight surrounds are also painted black. There are also rust holes in the lower fenders on both sides. It might just be better to fix the rust and repaint the entire car. There are other things that could be fixed pretty easily, like adding correct reproduction red dot mirror knob, throttle control knob, and shift boot. The radio and early grey plastic faceplate are also missing. I would take the originals out of the owners other car (#171).

-Mike

[26th-Z]

Yea, I don't want to sound negative, but all of our cars are "time capsules" compared to this. What I fear is that people will assume that the incorrect stuff on 13th is actually correct.

[mgmoreau]

Yea, I don't want to sound negative, but all of our cars are "time capsules" compared to this. What I fear is that people will assume that the incorrect stuff on 13th is actually correct.

Chris, the owner is very well aware of what is original and what things were modified by the PO. Keep in mind this car was only discovered a month ago and has not been touched for over 35 years. The current owner acquired the car from a guy in NC that put 90,000 miles in three years on the car. The current owner drove the car and put another 10,000 miles on it before putting it in moth balls for all those years with 100,000+ miles on the odometer.

He has not decided what to do with the car yet. He does have the original radio and faceplate. This truly was a "barn find" and has not been touched since 1973 with the exception of being towed to this show on Saturday.

Edited September 21, 2009 by mgmoreau

[Mike B]

Keep in mind this car was only discovered a month ago and has not been touched for over 35 years. The current owner acquired the car from a guy in NC that put 90,000 miles in three years on the car. The current owner drove the car and put another 10,000 miles on it before putting it in moth balls for all those years with 100,000+ miles on the odometer.

He has not decided what to do with the car yet. He does have the original radio and faceplate. This truly was a "barn find" and has not been touched since 1973 with the exception of being towed to this show on Saturday.

It may have been sitting for years, but not since 1973. The prior owner ( a member here at one point) noted he got #13 from a Garner, NC salvage yard in the mid 70's, put it back in running condition, and sold it after 2 years to the current owner, so that would be late 1970's I guess. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26001

What Chris and I were trying to say is, some people seem to think the car is 100% stock when it is not. I would personally rather see it put back as close to stock as possible, than just left as is.

-Mike

[26th-Z]

Marc,

Your "has not been touched in 35 years" is a perfect example of what I'm talking about! Thanks! You owe me a beer.

CW-

[AZ-240z]

I say, take the original bones of this very early example of a car that we all cherish and covet, replace and repair that which has rusted and worn out, renew that which is salvageable, and it will be the pride and envy of all of us. As we all know, the task of finding NOS, or equivalent, parts worthy of this pedigree will be the challenge and, in my opinion, would be much more desireable than, as Chris eluded to in post # 15 above, a much less than perfect "time capsule" of originality.

FWIW/

Dan

[zztom]

Here are a couple of pics. One of the paint under the hood

[e-tek]

#13 is in serious need of a resto;)! But thanks for the pics - makes me feel much better about mine!

[72Sunset240z]

pretty neat car. I wouldn't mind finding that in a barn.

[=Enigma=]

Original or not, it's very cool that this car has been found again and brought into the light. Let's hope that it's in the right hands or ends up in them at some point, and receives the proper restoration that it so rightly deserves.

[mgmoreau]

Original or not, it's very cool that this car has been found again and brought into the light. Let's hope that it's in the right hands or ends up in them at some point, and receives the proper restoration that it so rightly deserves.

The current owner is very aware of what he has and the significance of this car. He has kept it all these years because he knew it was a very special Z car. After meeting him I am confident that he will do the right thing for this car. He has been talking a lot to Carl Beck as well. You know Carl will be providing him with good advice.