New ZCCA Judging Rules

[26th-Z]

http://www.zcca.org/downloads/ZCCA_JudgingManual_2009.pdf

The ZCCA Judging Manual has been revised to October 2009.

[John Coffey]

Heh... still don't need a steering rack, tie rods, or lower steering column to get perfect points in the Engine and Body sections.

[motorman7]

Is the annual ZCON the only event where the rules are used??

[26th-Z]

John, you're too funny. Those items fall in the common sense category! I mean, how are you going to get the car in place without them?

Rich, any ZCCA sanctioned event representing any ZCCA member club can, and is encouraged to, use these rules. That's the intention of the data-base discussions. There was always the intention of being able to track cars and judges to use as a resource. And the ZCCA has the software for member clubs to use. I know the Tidewater club uses the rules for their annual spring event.

[gnosez]

Too bad the revisions weren't highlighted so people would know what was changed and what wasn't.

A summary of the significant revisions should be posted as well up front.

[26th-Z]

A wise old Z enthusiast once told me that no matter what you do someone is going to bitch. Probably the easiest thing to do would be to get out your old copy and read it, page-for-page, against the new copy. You will notice a considerable number of spelling, capitalization, and gramatical repairs. You will notice the 370Z added to the class structure. You will notice consistancy of terms (ie. modified and custom). You will notice language that addresses the later models (Z31, Z32, Z33) rather than emphasize the S30. You will notice a number of instances that were labeled to be explained later are now explained. And you will notice new wording about the stock class. At the direction of the ZCCA, an addendum is forthcoming that describes the scoring / point deduction system.

[TomoHawk]

The scoring system is the only big thing that has trouble. Some judges write 3, as in 3 points out of 10, which really means 7 points deduction. Some write -3... These are usually judges that aren't really experienced.

Another thing is the DD class. I don't have the luggage straps in, so I get points off? The same with aftermarket stereo. Some inexperienced judges score DD class like it was the stock class. That shouldn't be so, but by the time you get your judging sheet back it's too late. It's not polite to tell a judge he's wrong, either. Shows should be pleasant places.

Hopefuly more people will read the guide and then everyone will be consistant.

Chris-

I haven't noticed much of a difference so far, but I'll get to read it more thoroghly over the weekend (it's raining in Ohio.)

thxZ

Edited October 8, 2009 by TomoHawk

[AZ-240z]

If I am interpreting the rules outlined on page 7, paragraph A, Stock Class, correctly, it appears that the statement, "Air-conditioning must be factory installed", now eliminates the dealer installed York units of the early series 1 cars as a stock item?

Do the firewall holes for the A/C hoses need to be patched, or will rubber plugs be adequate for no point deductions? It will probably be a long time before a convention makes it back to the Western region where this could to be an issue for me, but I just thought I would ask for clarification for all who may be concerned.

And kudos to 26th-Z for all his good work with the Z.C.C.A.

Dan

[gnosez]

Chris - constructive comments re: doing it right and not rushing a document out before it's ready is not, in my book bitching.

To go out with perhaps the most important if not THE MOST IMPORTANT document that the ZCCA is known for without it being simple to understand is counter-productive.

Not sure what the rush was since the next convention is more than 9 months away.

And Chris, there are a large number of Z folks who do documents for a living and I'm sure a few would have volunteered to assist the ZCCA on this matter. You are not alone and you get to spread the blame around more.

And as an aside, if you want to discuss "factory installed AC units", then include model and year, since you now have folks asking about AC units in S30s when in point of fact you where describing Zs from 1979 on.

[gnosez]

Mr. Coffey could have also included clutch MC, wash bottle and pump, wiper motor, etc.

Knowing and understanding the rules allows one to focus on just the parts that are actually judged.

[TomoHawk]

You can't be focused too much, or you'll miss out on the categories that are judged in bulk, like the interior, engine area and paint. It is good enough though, to be used as an initial checklist, and the items on the list are things that are most likely to be missed when preparing the car or things that normally wear.

Edited October 9, 2009 by TomoHawk

[hls30.com]

After reading the new rules I'll say it this way. The changes are progress. Progress was made. Just like every living thing(even languages), changes will need to be made and should be expected.

To quote my sons' favorite movie, "Just keep moving forward"! This version of the rules did that-great work! I wish I could have been in San Antonio-after reading these rules, more than ever!

I read the pertinant part of the current version of the rules out loud every time I go to work on one of my Zs-the changes were readily apparent without a re-read, and I didn't see the first change that wasn't an obvious improvement on the last version.

Will