Fog Lamp Switch

[EScanlon]

It was the NON-illuminated rear window defog switch. It was put up for auction by Z cars of Arizona, Andy Russell (aka The Datsun Dude).

Two of those "might" work, but I only have one and the starting bid on it was a little stoo steep for my pocketbook.

Thanks though.

Enrique

[kats]

Hello,I am japanese and I have a 1970 240Z in JAPAN.I have seen a fog lamp switch at onece about 2 years ago,it was equiped to the 1970 fairlady-Z(right hand drive Z).It was positioned above the hazard switch,this is an erliest dash style as you know.

I didn't take a photo it was big mistake.But this time I draw a picture of fog lamp switch using my memory.This picture is just example,it may not be exactry right,but I am happy this picture helps your answer little bit.

KATSUHIKO ENDO

[HS30-H]

Hi Kats!

How are you? I just got back from the NISMO FESTIVAL at Fuji Speedway and I was kind of expecting to see you there........

I thought that you might have been one of the people to ask about this question on Enrique's behalf. Seems that the Fog Lamp option was quite rare in Japan too, as I was not able to find one to photograph.

However, I THINK I have a picture of what might be a factory Fog Lamp switch - and its on the dash of a genuine Works Rally car. I will hunt it down and post it up here.

Nice to see that you frequent the site, Kats. Hope to see you posting more often. I saw the article about you in AUTOWORKS by the way ( very impressive! ).

Just to fill everybody in on Kats' car; it has to be one of the best restored early LHD cars in the world. If he does not post any pictures of it through modesty, then I will.

All the best,

Alan Thomas.

[kats]

Hello Alan,

Thank you very much you find me,I have just known you have been talking in this page and I was about to mail you with some excitment.I have just joind this club a few days ago.

Please let us show your photo of works rally Z's fog switch.I am so interested in it.

I am also ready for giving some photo of parking light switch in another page.

Thank you very much.

KATSUHIKO ENDO

[HS30-H]

Hi Kats,

Good to hear from you. Hope that you will be around here more often.

For Enrique's delight - here is the picture of the Works rally car dash with its supplementary switches. I think that's no less than FOUR of the factory switches in the centre there................

This particular car is now under restoration in the UK, and competed as a Works entry in the 1971 RAC Rally. I feel sure that these switches are the type that Enrique is looking for.

I had at one point suspected that the C10 Skyline shape of fog lamp switch might have been the same - but after closer research it seems that they were quite a different shape entirely.

With a bit of luck, Enrique might be able to find one now that he knows what they look like.

What do you think Enrique? Do you think this is the right type?

All the best,

Alan T.

[kats]

Hi,Alan

I see your photo and I can say these are same switches which I saw 2 years ago here in japan.My drawing is not so bad,is it.I just draw the vectors of frashing reversed right and left.

And I clearly remember the size and shape of fog lamp switch is exactry same as hazard switch.I can see it through your photo.

I am moving for looking for this switch.It will take a long time.

Thank you.

KATSUHIKO ENDO

[EScanlon]

I very respectfully BOW to both of you!

What you have posted has been of supreme and outstanding value. Kats, your drawing of the switch matches what I can make out on the picture that Alan posted. I find it very interesting that the sequence of the 3 dashes above the Heater Panel is reversed (as far as LHD cars). That is the Clock is on the furthest Left as opposed to the furthest right for LHD vehicles. Then the switches show the same logo as Kats' picture BUT the symbol seems to have been reversed, that is, the rays shining to the Left while Kats' shine to the right. Truly MINOR detail, and maybe it's my incorrect interpretation, but that would be an interesting point to find out.

I've posted this before and I'll repeat myself. This is an EXCELLENT example of how valuable this forum is to this hobby.

Kats, or Alan, do you think either one of you might be able to find one of those Fog Lamp Switches? If not, I do have a spare Hazard Flasher that I might be able to convert for the purpose.

Thank you again! The pictures, the discussion and everything!

[HS30-H]

Hi Enrique and Kats,

Looks like a good result for our little carchaeology expedition......

Kats - your drawing was very good! I think it confirms that the Fog Lamp Switch was just about the same shape as the Hazard Lamp switch, but just with a different symbol on it.

Enrique - I think that thought about the reversing of the symbol for LHD and RHD might be a red herring; I don't think they would have done it unless they did the same thing with other switches and their symbols.

I shall keep a look out for a switch just like Kats - but don't hold your breath! It seems they are pretty rare now.................

In the meantime it might be a good idea to try and modify a Hazard Lamp switch, as you say.

Yes - the three meters on top of the dash were juxtaposed between the RHD and LHD versions, so that the clock was always furthest away from the driver.

Enrique - I recommend you put Kats on your list of most interesting contacts. He is a true detail fanatic and is rather singular in having an absolutely cracking early HLS30 that he had restored in Japan. Most HLS30's that made their way back to Japan were bought as cheap but rust-free donors for modified or non-standard projects, and change hands for much less money than a similar condition RHD car. Kats's car shows his fanaticism for period-correct detail and I am sure would be a top-dollar car anywhere in the world.

I'm sure he will put some more photos of his car up on the Members Cars section of the Gallery, but if he comes over all modest I will scan in some pictures from a Japanese magazine article that I have on it. Its a peach.

Alan T.

[EScanlon]

Alan:

I agree with you, I doubt that they reversed the logo for the LHD market. I was going off of Kats' drawing, and I'm not doubting what he drew, but it may have been reversed in his memory. That he could recall the switch with as much detail at all is remarkable.

I will check the hazard switch I have and determine how best to connect it to do the fog lamp switching, as well as figuring out a way of erasing the old double triangle logo and engraving the light. This will be interesting, I'll post my results in a picture later.

Again, both you and Kats have exceeded my hopes and reaffirmed the value of this forum.

Thanks again

Enrique Scanlon

[DJACEY(UK)]

Did anyone ever manage to get hold of an original fog light switch or did anyone successfully convert a harzard switch to a fog light switch - I am thinking of doing the same. Also, does any one know what the original front (was rear lights an option ?), fog lights looked like and how they were mounted ?

[HS30-H]

This illustration might be of use / interest:

[HS30-H]

And here's an illustration that depicts the switch: