HLS30-00400 on CL

[yetterben]

I would rip that engine out of there and throw a turbo or lsx in there. How does that sound!

[Zs-ondabrain]

I would rip that engine out of there and throw a turbo or lsx in there. How does that sound!

And along comes Ben.... :stupid:

Just make sure it's got a good head gasket on the new motor. Ask Ben what that's all about....

I'd say #400 has potential. Hell, I took a 15 year squater and turned it into a great Daily driver that needs minor body work to be a solid 8/10 How bad could #400 be. A little TLC here and there and it can be a Great car, with a faily low Vin. As compared to the Thousands of 240Z's still out there.

JMHO

Dave

[yetterben]

No really i would, i could care less about numbers or years if i want to chop it up make it a convert and throw a v8 in i would. Who really cares. its not special. its a piece of tin made in a shapely manner we all like. The only people who care about numbers are people that have more money than anyone on this site has. SO what do we care? is someone on here gonna buy that car and drop 100,000 bucks into it to bring it to its value of 20 grand?

What about all the people that in 69 or 70 turned there cars into racers???? oh no....better scold them bastards.....oh numbers matching....this is not a damn judge.

Edited June 23, 2010 by yetterben

[jmortensen]

What about all the people that in 69 or 70 turned there cars into racers???? oh no....better scold them bastards.....oh numbers matching....this is not a damn judge.

Hey watch it now! Fully restored, these cars have about the same value as a new Honda Civic Si.

[yetterben]

exactly..people get all hub bub about early cars. is it cool to know where they are sure. but unless you got 100 grand to make it worth 20 who cares.

[HS30-H]

....i could care less about numbers or years.....

Go on then, care less.

...if i want to chop it up make it a convert and throw a v8 in i would.

Go on then. Oh, hang on - you're just saying theoretically, right? OK, I get it....

But seriously, are you sure you're commenting on the right thread ( or on the right car? )? I think the general concensus here so far has been that the car is not all that attractive a proposition except for its ( relatively ) low body serial number. I don't think anyone's hyping it up as the best thing since sliced bread, or telling us that it's a copper-bottomed negative-equity beating 'investment'.

What about all the people that in 69 or 70 turned there cars into racers???? oh no....better scold them bastards.....

Well, not too many people turned them into race cars in 1969 ( unless you know better? ), but the cars that have been race cars for most of their lives are now some of the most sought-after of S30-series Z cars. Rather than 'scolding' the owners / builders, I think most of us would pat them on the back and congratulate them. I for one would always be drawn to the scruffy old race car rather than the 'Concours' stock car standing next to it.

There's an interesting period race car coming up for auction here in England next month, and the auction house have put an estimate of £40,000 to £60,000 ( that's roughly $60,000 to $90,000 US at the moment ) and some are saying that it's actually pretty 'cheap' if it goes for that kind of money. It'll be interesting to see what it gets knocked down for. You can't buy the kind of history that this car has all that often....

The slightly strange thing at the moment is that these cars are fetching quite a lot less than some of their contemporaries. 26th-Z commented a few days ago that they are hugely cheaper than most of the 'Big' Healeys, and cars that are considered mechanically and/or cosmetically 'inferior' are worth more. I guess it might have something to do with the perception that tens of thousands of them survive. Is the S30-series Z a victim of its own commercial success?

As for 'customising' or modifying the cars, in my experience the same kind of rivet-counting and pecking orders exist in those circles as they do in 'stock' or 'collector' car circles. If your car doesn't have the 'right' parts on it, if it wasn't engineered or built well, or - horror of horrors - it doesn't even look good, then it's going to be considered lower down in the pecking order - and therefore worth less - than one that has and does. Same thing as all big boy's toys, in fact.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't think you're going to give anyone here heart failure if you were to buy "#400 Z" ( ) and "throw" a turbo or LSX engine in there. In fact, you might find that some so-called 'collectors' would be quite happy to see another possible competitor in their game of Low-VIN Bingo elimininated.......

Alan T.

[Gary in NJ]

I don't think -00400 warrants a premium price. There isn't any historical significance to it's number, it doesn't have any race/owner pedigree - it's just a run-down Series I.

To me, it looks like a $2,500-$3,000 car that will require a minimum of $7,500 to $10,000 to get right (with a lot of work sweet equity). The figure could be significantly more if the interior and under pinning are in the same condition as the exterior. I would assume the worst.

[rtaylor]

Thanks for the correct info Chris. Alan, you crack me up sometimes. I didn't know I had rights other than the right for correct information in this club! Geezer, as always, thanks for your posts.

Sorry to be off point guys.

Edited June 23, 2010 by rtaylor

[moonpup]

Dear Mr. HS30-H,

Please be informed that in this thread entitled "HLS30-00400 on CL" started by none other than myself (Mr. Moonpup), that any and all persons whom wish to contribute to it (yourself included) have both my consent & blessings to refer to said car as #400, number 400, or whatever terminology they may think of for the z car already identified as HLS30-00400.

Sincerely,

Mr. Moonpup

[yetterben]

I was just ranting in general about low vin cars. I would do it to car 5 10 17 or 53.The market for low vin z cars is prob like what 50 people in the world. Its not a 2000gt.

I guess i don't understand the drooling by certain camps over low vin cars. What significance is it. Its still the same car nothing is different if anything $^!# is farked up. Does car 000004 or whatever that much better than a 73 544594549or whatever? Is it worth more money to who......this is like a bunch of people going oh ahhh i have action comics first appearance of superman.

Point being is car 00 whatever is not worth anymore than someones super sweet 76 280 with a rb26 in it. I agree this car is not worth 6 grand. not to anyone other then the Jay lenos of the world. I guess every time i see a thread about a low vin car come up people break out the flags draw lines and bicker in reality i am the type of guy to throw a Molotov cocktail at it so know one gets it. Metaphorical but yah get my drift.

As for race cars indeed cars with a log book and history should be put higher than the first car to roll of the line sent to Canada for salt testing!:bulb:

Edited June 23, 2010 by yetterben

[yetterben]

Oh i hate the term collector. Why....Collectors are evil evil people who hoard things and hide them from the rest of the world so that know one will ever enjoy it again.

[HS30-H]

Dear Mr. HS30-H,

Παρακαλώ ενημερώνεται ότι σε αυτό το νήμα έχον το δικαίωμα " HLS30-00400 σε CL" αρχισμένος από κανέναν εκτός από με (ο κ. Moonpup), ο οποίος οποιαδήποτε και όλα τα πρόσωπα που η επιθυμία να συμβάλει σε το (οι ίδιοι συμπεριλαμβανόμενος) έχει και ο δύο τη συγκατάθεσή μου & ευλογίες για να αναφερθεί στο εν λόγω αυτοκίνητο ως #400, αριθμός 400, ή ο, τιδήποτε ορολογία μπορούν να σκεφτούν για το αυτοκίνητο ζ που προσδιορίστηκε ήδη ως HLS30-00400.

Sincerely,

Mr. Moonpup

Dear Mr Moonpup,

Είστε το πίσω τέλος ενός αλόγου!

And here's a little souvenir of the real "#13" for you. You have my permission to use it as your screensaver. Enjoy!

Έχετε μια συμπαθητική ημέρα!

Alan T.