Car for sale

[Shade133]

i dont know, im not a professional restorer but i can see roughly in a worst case senario it costing that much. depends on how good of a salemen you are ive sold cars worth 200 for 1000.

[DougN]

I disagree that the seller of the car in the OP's post is asking too much, just that he is asking alot for a car without decent photos of the underside, battery tray, etc. Yes it has a 1/2 dashcap (which you can see in the flckr photos), but if it is solid otherwise, mechanically sound and the paint is as nice as it looks in the photos, then he should be able to get his asking price.

[Z Speed]

Jack, you make excellent points.

In quoting your reply, I kept one of the most poignant, IMO, as to why I personally jump so hard on this type of bashing.

IMO, those who are constantly looking to "deflate" any claims made by any seller of a Z, are the ones who are most responsible for re-sale values of these cars being and staying so low.

Their comments, when read by folks looking to buy their first Z and doing research on the marque, enforce thoughts of keeping prices low and often beget equally low and sparse offers.

IMO, some of those naysayers may only be voicing their own insecurity as to the value of their own cars.

The other point that I inferred from your thread, that I agree with is, the "schoolyard" roundtable bashing that ensues.

I can't enumerate the number of times that someone posted an ad for an otherwise beautiful vehicle being sold, and began or added to the thread with some denigrating comment. "Can you believe..."; "I almost threw up in my mouth..."; "What was this guy smoking..." are but just some of the comments that typify those posts. The banality of the comments seems to strike bottom and pull out a post hole digger.

There are two times when it's actually hilarious to read further posts from those individuals. The first is when it turns out that the seller of the car joins the forum and announces his involvement, and the second is when the seller turns out to be an existing member. You can literally hear the gears grinding as they slam their posts into reverse to try to take back their comments. Sometimes it's impossible for them to do so.

There are also times when it's obvious that the person looking to customize/modify/personalize their vehicle, simply has a different perspective on the world as it is. Even in those instances, comments and critiques can be made without seemingly quoting your 3 year old's profanity vocabulary.

If "Ca-ca", "poo-poo", and "Throwing Up in my Mouth!" are part of your opinion descriptor lexicon, then you may wish to re-think intelligent conversation... period.

Critiques oftentimes devolve into adolescent one-upmanship, with each poster looking for yet more vitriolic input to belittle the car and owner in question.

Critiques should be informative, not derogatory. Citing flaws is valid, if they are factual and NOT malicious opinions. Citing missing emblems, incorrect items, even poor repairs need not be an examination of motives, intent or suggest that the seller has nefarious purposes at heart.

Opinions are valid also, but leave the character assasination of the seller out. Even snide comments as to the car's appearance/modifications can be done -tastefully- without insulting anyone who might actually LIKE the car being discussed. A true witty comment can be right on point, yet not insulting or derogatory, and enjoyable by all.

There are times when I have had communication from folks who liked the car, who were intimidated into not saying anything about it because of the cyber-bullying taking place. That demonstrates that the roundtable bashing is not conducive to intelligent discussion. A good intelligent conversation need not be where everyone agrees completely.

Too many times to count there is a perfectly benign reason for the change or omission. Other times, it's simply due to the freedom of choice that many cite as being one of the reasons they love the Z, the freedom to personalize it and make the car their own.

If people were to reconsider their remarks with themselves in the seller/owner's position, they might find a much nicer way of stating the "obvious".

My 2¢

E

Funny, this happened to me when I posted photos of my car a couple years back. Granted, that was the last time I ever posted photos again. One has to remember when the work/mods were done as well. As with the case of my car ALL the work was done in the mid 70's, hence the era style pin striping etc.... To each his own....

I rolled my car out of a 20+ year hiding, quickly washed her, took photos to post here, then pushed her back into her hiding spot in my garage. I haven't seen her since. After the response I got from my car one would think I completely molested it, which is far from the case. Now I just find myself reading post to gain info for when I do began a resto on her....

[ensapp]

I sold my 1990 300zx NA 8 weeks ago to pay off my house. I was immediately sick that I let it go. It was perfect inside and out and faster than lightning . I started looking for another Z and came across this one.

http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/1834840615.html

I watched it drop from $2100.00 to $1000.00 over a couple of weeks. When it hit $1000.00 even though it's a 2+2 and not a coupe I couldn't stand it any longer and I bought it. It may take me a year or two but it will be perfect too.

It turns out the interior is in very good shape. It only has minor rust on the outside and it runs and shifts good .