Posted October 31, 201014 yr comment_334769 I bought a car that has painted light covers on the front and PAII halogens mounted on the front bumper. pulled the painted light covers and found just the housing. No wires or connectors or anything....I did find some wires that were cut and capped, just not sure if they were for the headlights (see pic). Since there is numerous posts about light conversions and wire harness upgrades I am looking for the best route to get upgraded. 74 260Z early 12/73 Edited October 31, 201014 yr by dawg7 didn't add year of vehicle Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 31, 201014 yr comment_334771 I'd just rewire from scratch with relays rather than trying to revive a PO's cobbled mess. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 31, 201014 yr comment_334784 Dawg,First suggestion, put the year of your car in your posts. It helps others help you.Second suggestion, follow Jeff's advice.Adding on to what Jeff said...Look at the FSM to get the wire colors for the headlights from the switches to the headlights. You'd think I'd have those memorized by now with as often as I type up information on them, but my memory isn't what it used to be.Start at the point where the engine wiring harness meets the body wiring harness, and remove the wires from the connector.If you search online long enough, you can find 14 gauge wire with the same color/stripe combination as stock. It's worth your while to replicate the scheme. Crimp new connectors onto the new wires. You can find the proper connectors at Vintage Connections. I've purchased from this guy, and he is good to work with.Integrate in Dave's (Zs-ondabrain) relay upgrade. You can find it at Motorsport Auto. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 31, 201014 yr Author comment_334792 ooops made a newbie mistake. did a quick edit and added the year. I have been out all morning digging thru the wire bundles and found the connectors. It is the three prong connector type. I checked the voltage and got 12vs between RB to RW and RB to RY at both connectors when lights are switched on. I didn't see a 260 or 280 wire harness upgrade on MSA. Still want to try and get a brighter headlight. One thing I am not noticing is the high beam switch? I can't see any mention of it in the FSM or Haynes. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 31, 201014 yr comment_334798 Yeah, the relay upgrade is really just designed for the 240. Blackdragon has the generic one, though I would replace the relays on it with sockets. (Actually, I have one of those kits for my 260Z, and my plan is to replace the relays on that kit with sockets in order to be able to replace relays.)The high beam switch is part of the turn signal switch. It swaps the return path from the headlights. IMHO it wasn't the best design. I don't like switching paths to ground. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 1, 201014 yr comment_334822 ... I don't like switching paths to ground.That was a very common design on cars in the era of the early Z. It saves on wiring. (Not that I endorse it, but Nissan wasn't the only company that followed that pattern.) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 1, 201014 yr Author comment_334873 Guys, thanks for the tips. I will start digging into the headlights this week! Just breezed thru Blackdragon auto online. Thanks now I have some bedtime reading! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 1, 201014 yr Author comment_334899 will the headlight assemblies from a 72 240z work? got a set I can buy if they fit. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 1, 201014 yr comment_334907 I would think they would. I've never needed to find out. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 2, 201014 yr Author comment_334949 I think they will fit also. Now I need to find the short wire harness from the light to the three prong connector. I remember seeing a electrical connector website that deals with old stlyle connectors and relays. Can't find it now.........ugh. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 2, 201014 yr comment_334950 You might be thinking of Vintage Connections. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 2, 201014 yr Author comment_334951 yep that is the one. I am going to cut the old connector off with plenty of wire to spare and then splice in one of those vintage connectors. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37534-dude-wheres-my-headlights-and-wires/#findComment-334951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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