November 11, 201014 yr comment_335740 In the 175SR14, the "S" is the speed rating (S=112mph, H=130mph).The 240's did come with 175SR14 (which has a 78 aspect ratio), however, the OP was asking about his 280Z, which came with the 195's. A 175/78-14 and 195/70-14 have the exact overall height (24-3/4") and as a result the same revolution's per mile (815.35). Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37636-difference-between-18570r-14-and-19570r-14/?&page=2#findComment-335740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 11, 201014 yr Author comment_335743 This is getting interesting.I'm considering adding a '70-'72 240Z to my budding collection. Assuming a stock 240Z with either 14" OEM steel wheels or 14" slotted mags, I'm thinking the 195/R70-14 would be preferable to the OEM 175/78-14. Correct? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37636-difference-between-18570r-14-and-19570r-14/?&page=2#findComment-335743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 11, 201014 yr comment_335754 In the 175SR14, the "S" is the speed rating (S=112mph, H=130mph).The 240's did come with 175SR14 (which has a 78 aspect ratio), however, the OP was asking about his 280Z, which came with the 195's. A 175/78-14 and 195/70-14 have the exact overall height (24-3/4") and as a result the same revolution's per mile (815.35).Actually, the pure millimetric 175-14 size was typically said to have an implied 80% aspect ratio, not the 78% that was becoming common in US alphanumeric tires. A small difference (2%), but a difference none the less.This is getting interesting.I'm considering adding a '70-'72 240Z to my budding collection. Assuming a stock 240Z with either 14" OEM steel wheels or 14" slotted mags, I'm thinking the 195/R70-14 would be preferable to the OEM 175/78-14. Correct?A qualified yes. First, the original 175-14 size - as well as the modern re-labled equivalent 175/80-14 - is almost non-existant these days, so past a few odds and ends like Vredsteins, you won't be running the original size anyway.The other part to consider is the rim width. The factory steel rims here in North America through about 8/71 build were only 4.5" wide. I'm not aware of any companies who approve of pinching a 195/70-14 down to fit a rim that narrow. For '72 and later, the factory rims were 5" wide, which is generally the narrowest that a 195/70 is spec'd to work on. This is a bit of an issue for people with the early cars and rims, as the factory size is almost unavailable, yet the next obvious size is too wide for the rims. For those cars I'd recommend 185/75-14 as the best alternative.Step up to a 6" rim and things open up. The 195/70 still fits fine, yet 6" is wide enough for up to a 225/60. Same is almost true for a 7", although most 195/70s will be a bit stretched on a rim that wide.I'm pretty certain that I've listed this before, but it seems appropriate to do it here as well. The following sizes are all about the same rolling diameter as the 175-14 (plus or minus 2-3%, which is generally considered a negligible difference). Please note that many of these sizes are no longer available, or at best hard to find. I've not added the P (Passenger) that some may have at the beginning, nor have I added any speed ratings.Also, due to varying offsets, lowering amounts, different air dams, etc., I'm not trying to say that all of these sizes will definitely fit all S30s. This is just for reference.175R14 (80% aspect ratio)DR78-14185/751R4DR70-14195/70R14205/65R14ER60-14225/60R14175/70R15185/65R15205/60R15225/55R15205/55R15225/50R16245/45R16205/50R17225/45R17245/40R17225/40R18245/35R18As a final reference, I have 195/70TR14 on 14x6 wheels on my '71 240Z. Works great on a mostly stock car. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37636-difference-between-18570r-14-and-19570r-14/?&page=2#findComment-335754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 12, 201014 yr Author comment_335817 Arne, Thank you for all the excellent information! This raises another set of questions, perhaps more of academic interest, but I think the kind of stuff we Z lovers thrive on. Can anyone comment on the differences in performance, handling, etc. between a stock 240Z with original 175/14 tires back in, say 1972, and the same car now with 195/R70-14 tires? Would it feel much like the same car as far as stability, steering and handling? Would braking be affected? How about driving on wet roads or at high speed? Would the overall ride be different, say smoother? Would a passenger notice any difference? Thanks again Arne, Enrique, Gary, Jim and Mike! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37636-difference-between-18570r-14-and-19570r-14/?&page=2#findComment-335817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 12, 201014 yr comment_335819 Any non-60 series 14" street rubber that you can buy today (with the exception of Hoosiers) are strictly minivan fodder. No true performance capabilities by today's standards.That said, your typical 195/70-14 all-seasons tire of today is still a better all-around tire than anything that you could buy in the early '70s, with the possible exception of the Michelin XVS/XWX lines, and maybe the Pirelli CN36. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37636-difference-between-18570r-14-and-19570r-14/?&page=2#findComment-335819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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