November 18, 201014 yr comment_336386 These are the 5 mph damage control bumpers, with shock absorbers inside the mounting struts. I have seen somewhere, that you can either compress the shock, drill some holes and lock it in place (creating a big surprise for a future owner) or I think that you can carefully take them apart and remove the springs before locking them in place.That's what I recalled reading, but since I was too lazy to search for the description, I didn't try to give specifics. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-336386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 18, 201014 yr comment_336388 I did that to my '74. Before (black plastic pieces removed) Shocks compressed and welded After Once you take the bumper off of the shocks, you will see a small screw in the middle of the mounting flange on the shocks. Remove this screw and the pressure will be released from the shock. Compress it to your desired length, and weld/drill/bolt it to secure it there. Hope this helps. Edited November 19, 201014 yr by g9m3c Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-336388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 19, 201014 yr comment_336396 No offense, but I personally don't like the look of the big bumpers. As everyone knows, they were added due to U.S. federal regulations and they completely changed the look of the original S30 design. However, I know that you like the late '70s look and I think that the look of the early 260Z bumpers isn't a bad one, so it would be a good compromise between the 240 and the late 260/280 bumpers. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-336396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 19, 201014 yr comment_336413 If you move the bumper inwards could you then cut out two or three "ribs" from the bumper ends and glue them back together using bumper compound?I have repaired the ends on mine using it and reinforcement mesh and they seem to be holding up well, you cannot even see they were damaged. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-336413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 19, 201014 yr Author comment_336417 G9m3c, thanks! That looks like the trick. And grantf, do you mean this stuff?http://www.seenontvproducts.net/bumper-repair-kit/index.html Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-336417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 201014 yr comment_337994 I found these pictures on the internet and saved them as inspiration for doing the same on my 1977 Z Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-337994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 201014 yr Author comment_338004 Thanks, Texas! Yeah! That looks sharp! The rear bumper guard has a different shape (other than having a couple of ribs removed) than the stock '77/'78. Specifically, it doesn't project out in a dorky mound. Rather, it just covers over the end of the bumper. I'm wondering whether this was some sort of custom-molded bumper guard. For reference, here is the stock look -- same as mine: http://www.triadzclub.com/z/classifieds/Mar%2013_08/1977Datsun280Z/index.html Having thought about this a bit more, I'm wondering whether I could compress the shock to the length I want, drill a hole through it someplace that won't compromise the mechanics of the shock, and put a small diameter bolt through the whole thing to keep the shock compressed. In the event of a collision, the bolt could shear, and the shock might still provide some shock-absorption protection. If desired, the bolt could be removed to restore the bumper position to its stock configuration (also replacing the original bumper guard). I'm thinking I'll be able to mold my own custom bumper guards, but I'd love to find the pictured ones ready made. Do you know if they exist somewhere? Edited December 6, 201014 yr by FastWoman Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-338004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 201014 yr comment_338007 On your bolt idea would it be easier to just wire it into place, then no hole drilling into the shock and the shock would be allowed to compress. In off road racing they will use a retention strap to keep the shock from fully extending and smacking the valves damaging or breaking the shock. On one end loop it around the mounting point then under the car from the hole for the shock and to that mounting point. You might need to use cable so to keep it tight refer to garage door cables to make the tension part. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-338007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 201014 yr Author comment_338012 I like that idea, ajm. In fact I wonder if a turn-buckle could be incorporated to adjust the shock compression. Hmmmm....On a previous topic, a thought about the bumper guard: Maybe the humps on the pictured rear guards were cut off, sanded smooth, and polished? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-338012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 201014 yr comment_338021 The thing I like is you can adjust it later if you want.On the bumper guard in the last picture it looks like they cut them on the seam and glued it back together taking a couple ribs out Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-338021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 201014 yr comment_338030 How would you glue that? BTW- can you get those little round plugs? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-338030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 201014 yr Author comment_338035 Tomo, see post #16. I've never used the stuff personally, but this sounds like a promising approach. I'd personally rather try to create a new part than to hack up an old part.Which little round plugs? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/37714-bumpers-shortening-the-projection-of-the-rear-bumper/?&page=2#findComment-338035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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