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Retro 4 (Libres) & Classic 8's Now in 15x7


Dave Patten

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The pricing posted initially did not reflect the new pricing VTO released 1/3/11 for 2011. Here are the revised prices.

FutoFab has refunded all those that paid at the higher prices. We offer our sincerest apologies for any confusion it may have created.

Classic 8

(Style/diameter x width/offset/back spacing/bore center /bolt pattern/color(s)/prices each)

Classic 8 / 13x6 / +13 / 4.01” / 67.1 / 4x101.6 / black & silver / $150 each

Classic 8 / 13x6 / +13 / 4.01” / 67.1 / custom* / black & silver / $175 each

Classic 8 / 13x6 / +23 / 4.41” / 67.1 / custom* / black & silver / $175 each

Classic 8 / 14x5.5 / +22 / 4.12” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $160 each

Classic 8 / 15x6 / +24 / 4.41” / 67.1 / 4x95.25 / black & silver / $175each

Classic 8 / 15x6 / +3 / 3.62” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $175 each

Classic 8 / 15x7 / +0 / 4.00” / 73.0 / custom*/ black & silver / $200 each

Classic 8 / 15x7 / +12 / 4.47” / 73.0 / custom*/ black & silver / $200 each

Classic 8 / 15x7 / +25 / 4.98” / 73.0 / custom*/ black & silver / $200 each

*Classic 8 custom bolt patterns are available in 4 or 5 lug from 4x95.25 to 5x130. Patterns other than those specifically listed will be a custom pattern. Currently all 15x7’s will be a custom bolt pattern.

Retro 4

(Style/diameter x width/offset/back spacing/bore center /bolt pattern/color(s)/prices each)

Retro 4 / 15x6 / +3 / 3.62” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $175 each

Retro 4 / 15x6 / +24 / 4.44” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $175 each

Retro 4 / 15x7 / +0 / 4.00” / 73.0 / custom**/ black only / $200 each

Retro 4 / 15x7 / +12 / 4.47” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $180 each

**Retro 4 custom bolt patterns are available in 4 lug only from 4x95.25 to 4x130. Patterns other than those specifically listed will be a custom pattern. Currently all 15x7’s will be a custom bolt pattern.

Pricing includes center cap and chrome valve stems, lug nuts are $5 additional per wheel. Shipping & handling additional.

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cant wait until next november when I can order mine...mabye earlier is things go my way. I am I correct in assuming that the 7 inch 0 offset ones only come in black? if so I will get the 12 offset and use spacers

You are correct, currently the Retro 4 15x7 +0 offset is only available in black. As wheels are re-ordered if silver is popular (which it certainly seems to be) I'm sure the 15x7 +0 will come in silver as well and maybe by next November.

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Classic 8

(Style/diameter x width/offset/back spacing/bore center /bolt pattern/color(s)/prices each)

Classic 8 / 13x6 / +13 / 4.01” / 67.1 / 4x101.6 / black & silver / $150 each

Classic 8 / 13x6 / +13 / 4.01” / 67.1 / custom* / black & silver / $175 each

Classic 8 / 13x6 / +23 / 4.41” / 67.1 / custom* / black & silver / $175 each

Classic 8 / 14x5.5 / +22 / 4.12” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $160 each

Classic 8 / 15x6 / +24 / 4.41” / 67.1 / 4x95.25 / black & silver / $175each

Classic 8 / 15x6 / +3 / 3.62” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $175 each

Classic 8 / 15x7 / +0 / 4.00” / 73.0 / custom*/ black & silver / $200 each

Classic 8 / 15x7 / +12 / 4.47” / 73.0 / custom*/ black & silver / $200 each

Classic 8 / 15x7 / +25 / 4.98” / 73.0 / custom*/ black & silver / $200 each

Retro 4

(Style/diameter x width/offset/back spacing/bore center /bolt pattern/color(s)/prices each)

Retro 4 / 15x6 / +3 / 3.62” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $175 each

Retro 4 / 15x6 / +24 / 4.44” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $175 each

Retro 4 / 15x7 / +0 / 4.00” / 73.0 / custom**/ black only / $200 each

Retro 4 / 15x7 / +12 / 4.47” / 73.0 / 4x114.3 / black & silver / $180 each

I am quite excited by these new offerings.

I would love to see wheel weights added to this list. (Please be light, please be light, please be light...)

Al

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Al,

I do not have good weights at this tiime. What I have on feedback is the 15x6 +24 Classic 8 is 14# and the 15x7 +12 Retro 4 is 16#. These are not the lightest wheels, but they are in the same range as the Panasport Ultralights I have.

When I get official numbers I will post them.

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Al,

I do not have good weights at this tiime. What I have on feedback is the 15x6 +24 Classic 8 is 14# and the 15x7 +12 Retro 4 is 16#. These are not the lightest wheels, but they are in the same range as the Panasport Ultralights I have.

When I get official numbers I will post them.

Hi Dave,

I am currently interested in 15x7's, zero offset, in both styles. Ideally they would be in the 12-13lb range, but selection for Z-cars is limited so I'll take what I can find.

Definitely interested in 1 or 2 sets in the next few months. Please post weights when you have the data.

Thanks,

Al

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Hi Dave,

I was wondering if you may have any plans to carry Performance Challenger styled wheels? They look very similar to the ATS Classic that Goose52 has in his postings. I know they make a 15x7 and 15x8 in 4x114.3 lug pattern which would look awesome on an s30.

Thanks

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You are correct, currently the Retro 4 15x7 +0 offset is only available in black. As wheels are re-ordered if silver is popular (which it certainly seems to be) I'm sure the 15x7 +0 will come in silver as well and maybe by next November.

FWIW, I would be interested in both style wheels in silver.

Al

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  • 2 weeks later...

Our new VTO Retro-4 wheels arrived Saturday while we were at the track. These are the 15x7 zero offset. Man-o-man do they look good. We won't be able to mount them up for a couple of weeks yet.

Here's a few pictures of them.

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This type of deep black is always hard to photograph.

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We bought the wheel lugs with the wheels and that included rubber valve stems and a chrome stem cover. I'm using a bent Q-Tip to hold the valve stem cover in place. The lugs are recessed.

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The wheels have a tapered steel insert pressed in for the lugs to mate with. This helps the wheels last longer.

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Chrome plated steel tapered lugs.

Because of the rules of the club we race with, we can't use the center caps. Also, we will need to machine the cap off of the lugs to allow our longer studs to pass through. As per our club rules, we have replaced the stock studs with longer studs. The studs must always be longer than the lugs. This allows for quick proof of full thread engagement.

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  • 8 months later...

It's been a while, but we finally mounted some tires on our new VTO Retro-4 rims and were able to mount the wheels on the our Datsun 240z. :)

The rims are the VTO Retro-4 15x7 zero offset.

The tires are the Falken 912 225/50-15.

The lugs are not what came with the rims. We have racing studs that are longer than stock and had to use open lugs.

We drove the car around town a bit without problems and then a full weekend at Willow Springs Raceway without any issues. There was some concern that this rim/tire combination might rub or otherwise not fit right. We had no issues of any kind. :)

The car is a 1973 Datsun 240z that is mostly stock. (well, sort of...) The things we changed that might effect wheel rub or fitment are as such:

Energy Suspension polyurethane bushings all around.

Tokico Lowering Springs all around. This lowers the car one or two inches and stiffens the ride a bit. These are street class springs.

260z swaybars, front and rear. The front swaybars are identical, the 240z came without a rear bar.

The Retro-4 wheels are kind of heavy for racing purposes. They weigh in at 18 pounds each. I was hoping for 14 or 15 pounds. :(

They did perform well on the track though. We lowered our laps times by about 3 seconds since the last time at this same track. We used the same tire, brand, style and size as our last event for comparative purposes. No, these wheels did lower our track time. LOL We lightened the car by 130 pounds, added a LSD (limited slip differential) and added an adjustable proportional valve sense our last event. :)

The wheels look good on the car and I'm happy with them. :)

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