Welcome Blue! Now that you and Tony are here along with comrade YORGO, I think I can officially retire from zc.c. It's been a good ride over there, but there really isn't any reason to check in anymore. BTW, why is Z E R O still posting over there?

I agree that there is a ton of great information there. Too bad there is also a lot of misinformation in the archives.

I was doing some P's & M's with Tony's son the other day about ZC.C . His comment put me back in perspective: "What do you expect John, It's the internet".

I get it.

I wish Derek and the others well, I'm hoping he kept a taste of the casino games, er, ad revenue skim over there.

Hey, I gave up my space at a Sheryl Crow concert for his folks many years ago at The Grove. No biggie the guys I was running with that day had all access passes for us all so we went to another better location to enjoy our musical afternoon.

Tony D. -

It's interesting you used the name "Lucifer" : in your sense and most people it's supposed to be another name for the devil. In the original Hebrew - Lucifer means =

the bringer of light.

Now consider - Tony D. has given more enlightement to those at Zcar than almost anyone esle next to Blue.

So Tony - you are Lucifer.

History Warning: the first matches were called Lucifers.

Slow Match (for matchlock type firearms and muzzleloading cannon) could be lit with a lucifer to start it smoldering. The slow match was kept on a pike near the cannons and cannoneers would light their quick match (firecracker fuse) with the slow match.

Welcome Blue!

*snipped*

BTW, why is Z E R O still posting over there?

To hide the invisible ink.

Tony D. -

It's interesting you used the name "Lucifer" :

He misspelled "Loose Fur"...its a Michigan taxidermy thing.

I have a 1/49 scale replica of the car in Tony D's avatar. (though mine is a 1937 and the real one is a 1936)