anyone want to build an o.e zg replica??

[ajmcforester]

Alan T. Do you ever get your up to high speeds? How much of a difference did the zg front make in how the car handles? I've like the look, but I don't have the spot yet to create a clone or store even another Z, well I could but it means more money in storage

[HS30-H]

Alan T. Do you ever get your up to high speeds? How much of a difference did the zg front make in how the car handles?

Well, it's hard to make direct comparisons with it being so subjective, but - generally speaking - my GP Maroon ZG has always felt more stable at higher speeds than any of my short-nosed cars.

By 'stable' I mean feeling less affected by drag and turbulence both when travelling in relatively straight lines and when changing direction / moving amongst other fast traffic. Hard to describe, but just a feeling that there was more stability - probably because there is less of an open mouth for air to grab hold of....

But, as I say, it's all very subjective. Similar effects can be attained by changing spring and damper rates, and steering rack ratio / steering arm ratio. To get the best out of the 'Grande Nose' you would want to fit it with one of the factory spoilers, to control air going under the car. You can fit front spoilers / splitters and other aero parts to short nose cars too, so its all a bit open to interpretation.

It certainly doesn't hurt the dynamics of the car, but one of the greatest attractions of such parts is of course to replicate a rare and limited production factory variant that was produced and sold specifically to homologate the parts for use in motorsport.

Alan T.

[ajmcforester]

I know talking like this is subjective, but sometimes subjective talk can give an idea of difference, just makes it hard to quantify. Have you gotten it above 150KM that would be when you might start to notice a difference, I know with my Z I notice steering performance, and tracking changes at about 70mph. With the standard Z at this speed the front end is way up in the air and it is affecting the steering and starts to really affect the car when you get close to 100mph

[rahail240]

Right guys I'm going to do a bit of research just to give a ball part figure on shipping to u.s.

[HS30-H]

Have you gotten it above 150KM that would be when you might start to notice a difference, I know with my Z I notice steering performance, and tracking changes at about 70mph.

Yes, lots of times. Had it at the red line in fifth with a 3.9 diff ratio and 580mm tall tyres, both on the road and on the circuit. Felt 'better' than any of my 'short nose' cars, for sure.

No offence, but surely stock springing, damping and steering ratio of north American market cars will only make any high speed aero deficiencies feel 'worse'? Improve aero and stiffen up springing & damping / reduce steering ratio and the car will certainly feel more secure at higher speeds. This is true for short nose cars as well as 'Grande Nose' cars.

To be frank, I have to admit that the attraction of the factory ZG look is for me more about what it represents than any real-world driving dynamics. So it's just as much about pure looks as anything else. Those looks - and the rather subjective matter of what they represent ( a factory-made homologation special, incorporating parts to make their factory race cars perform better ) - are the attraction.

Real factory-built 'HS30-H' models usually change hands for more money than their short-nosed 'HS30' 240Z and 240Z-L brothers do. Same as when they were new.

[rahail240]

ok guys i've got a quote and heres the deal.

i'm willing to take the hit on the shipping ($1200!!!).

to your door in the u.s.

for the whole kit i want $7500.

i have far more in it than my original guestimation in my first post.(around $8500 usd).

i've attatched a link to just a lower section from yahoo.

100,000 yen buy it now for just that piece.

just take another look at the contents of mine and do some homework.

this is a very good price.

i don't want to split it, i really want someone who is passionate about finishing an excellent replica.

and with this they can.

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/145884683

if not sold here it will be going out to masses on the dreaded e-bay.

save me from the dreamers.....please!! :cry:

[spitz17]

Real factory-built 'HS30-H' models usually change hands for more money than their short-nosed 'HS30' 240Z and 240Z-L brothers do. Same as when they were new.

:cry:

[HS30-H]

:cry:

Don't fret. Due to one of those strange Darwinian incidences, more of the genuine 'HS30-H' models than genuine 'HS30' Fairlady 240Zs and 240Z-Ls seem to have survived. Time has turned the tables, and now your short nose 240Z-L is quite possibly more rare than a genuine 240ZG. Weird old world, isn't it?

Anyway, love the one you're with....

[spitz17]

Glad to hear. Funny how things work out that way. I am a big fan of the "HS30-H" model Z's. I would be curious to see the figures on how many Fairlady 240Z, 240Z-L, and 240Z-G's have remained. I wonder if there is any information around on that?

These are beautiful parts indeed. I would say the price is fair... Considering anyone who has the desire to take on the task of making a near-exact replica, probably would not mind spending the money to do it right anyways.

[rahail240]

ok guys.

i must admit i was quite dissapointed in the interest in these.

maybe price, maybe distance?? maybe zg not everyones cup of tea??

anyway thankfully most bits now sold.

still available.

lamp covers (on e bay currently)

comp steering wheel. (e bay )

hinges.

emblems.

kameari racing ingnition kit (e bay)

lovely schroth (a period favourite on jap track scene) harness

thanks for looking and the compliments on the bits.