Posted May 21, 201113 yr comment_356422 I have picked up a couple of 97 accord and 95 civic wiper motors and am having issues with the swap. I have tried following the instructions in the stickied post, however the blue/white wire on the honda side is causing me problems. So long as I leave the blue/white disconnected I have low and high wipers. If I leave it connected to the relay on post 87A it causes a short and kills everything. If however, I run the wiper motor for a second so that it is not parked and then touch the blue/white wire to the relay it causes it to park. I could obviously run everything with the b/w disconnected, but would really like it to work properly. Has anyone else ran into this problem before and have a fix? I found tons of posts saying all that needed to be done to the 97 accord motor was grind the output down some. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 201113 yr Author comment_356485 I ran across the atlantic z car tech tips section and it shows to leave the blue/white wire disconnected. If I pull the relay back out and direct wire all the connections their way I have low and high, but it doesn't allow the park function to work at all. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 201113 yr comment_356597 Nate, did you get my email?I wrote a big 'ol reply here in this box yesterday, and as I hit "POST" CZCC went down seconds before hand. So the whole damn thing was wasted.Also, I'm not getting ANY emails from CZCC about replies or PM's. Does anyone reading this know why. Do I need to reset something? Mess with my Settings? or is this typical of the new site programming??Dave Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 201113 yr comment_356600 Email doesn't seem to be outgoing again. I'm hoping that an upcoming hardware replacement (with a fresh OS) will permanently fix this. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 201113 yr comment_356604 I have a wiper motor from an Escort ZX2. It was dirt cheap after I took it out myself,, the bolt pattern was similar, and it uses the (slotted) arm. I experimented with the wiring and found that it just uses 12V to power either low or high speed and it's self-parking. Relating (translating the wiring) this motor to the civic motor is the problem. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 201113 yr Author comment_356606 Dave, I got your email earlier, but haven't made it home to send out pics of everything. I must be missing something obvious as everything works minus the parking/dead short. The problem may be in the motor itself as the blue/white wire on the honda end seems to go to ground on both motors. Tomohawk, what year of an escort did you use? One of my motors has a warranty and I am open to other options if we can't get it fixed. Plus there are way more fords in the pullapart here. I have exhausted most of the hondas already. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 201113 yr comment_356619 Couple things....Tom, Stick to the subject. He's having issues with MY Honda upgrade relay set-up and a Honda motor. You're just confusing the matter with opther motors from other cars.Hogie,Let me know what you find when you compare the drawing with the actual motor and relay at home.If all else fails, you can send me what you got and I'll make it into a running unit. Free of charge, just cover the shipping back and forth.Dave Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 201113 yr comment_356625 Sorry about that.Can you remind me where the circuit information is? Is there some logic stuff to tell you which wires/pins to the motor have power or make a circuit? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 24, 201113 yr Author comment_356646 I found the factory diagram earlier today. http://www.4moores.com/280z/files/240Z_Windshield_Wiper_Motor_Connecting_Diagram.jpg Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 24, 201113 yr comment_356651 Sorry about that.Can you remind me where the circuit information is? Is there some logic stuff to tell you which wires/pins to the motor have power or make a circuit?Check the BE section of the FSM. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 25, 201113 yr Author comment_356753 After talking to Dave we realized what the problem is. My relay had two 87 pins that were directly connected to each other. If I had one with a pin 87 and 87a it would've worked fine from the get go. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 25, 201113 yr comment_356840 So what he's saying is the wrong relay caused the problem, the correct relay solved the problem.Everything works as it should. Glad we figured it out. ya kinda threw me for a minute.Black is groundBlue red and green/black are powerBlack/yellow is Hi speedBlue is low speed (I think)Blue white is the park (I think)Hope that helps TomDave Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39640-honda-wiper-upgrade-issues/#findComment-356840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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