Honda Wiper upgrade Issues

[hogie]

I have picked up a couple of 97 accord and 95 civic wiper motors and am having issues with the swap. I have tried following the instructions in the stickied post, however the blue/white wire on the honda side is causing me problems.

So long as I leave the blue/white disconnected I have low and high wipers. If I leave it connected to the relay on post 87A it causes a short and kills everything. If however, I run the wiper motor for a second so that it is not parked and then touch the blue/white wire to the relay it causes it to park.

I could obviously run everything with the b/w disconnected, but would really like it to work properly. Has anyone else ran into this problem before and have a fix?

I found tons of posts saying all that needed to be done to the 97 accord motor was grind the output down some.

[hogie]

I ran across the atlantic z car tech tips section and it shows to leave the blue/white wire disconnected. If I pull the relay back out and direct wire all the connections their way I have low and high, but it doesn't allow the park function to work at all.

[Zs-ondabrain]

Nate, did you get my email?

I wrote a big 'ol reply here in this box yesterday, and as I hit "POST" CZCC went down seconds before hand. So the whole damn thing was wasted.

Also, I'm not getting ANY emails from CZCC about replies or PM's. Does anyone reading this know why. Do I need to reset something? Mess with my Settings? or is this typical of the new site programming??

Dave

[Arne]

Email doesn't seem to be outgoing again. I'm hoping that an upcoming hardware replacement (with a fresh OS) will permanently fix this.

[TomoHawk]

I have a wiper motor from an Escort ZX2. It was dirt cheap after I took it out myself,, the bolt pattern was similar, and it uses the (slotted) arm. I experimented with the wiring and found that it just uses 12V to power either low or high speed and it's self-parking. Relating (translating the wiring) this motor to the civic motor is the problem.

[hogie]

Dave, I got your email earlier, but haven't made it home to send out pics of everything. I must be missing something obvious as everything works minus the parking/dead short.

The problem may be in the motor itself as the blue/white wire on the honda end seems to go to ground on both motors.

Tomohawk, what year of an escort did you use? One of my motors has a warranty and I am open to other options if we can't get it fixed. Plus there are way more fords in the pullapart here. I have exhausted most of the hondas already.

[Zs-ondabrain]

Couple things....

Tom,

Stick to the subject. He's having issues with MY Honda upgrade relay set-up and a Honda motor. You're just confusing the matter with opther motors from other cars.

Hogie,

Let me know what you find when you compare the drawing with the actual motor and relay at home.

If all else fails, you can send me what you got and I'll make it into a running unit. Free of charge, just cover the shipping back and forth.

Dave

[TomoHawk]

Sorry about that.

Can you remind me where the circuit information is? Is there some logic stuff to tell you which wires/pins to the motor have power or make a circuit?

[hogie]

I found the factory diagram earlier today. http://www.4moores.com/280z/files/240Z_Windshield_Wiper_Motor_Connecting_Diagram.jpg

[SteveJ]

Sorry about that.

Can you remind me where the circuit information is? Is there some logic stuff to tell you which wires/pins to the motor have power or make a circuit?

Check the BE section of the FSM.

[hogie]

After talking to Dave we realized what the problem is. My relay had two 87 pins that were directly connected to each other. If I had one with a pin 87 and 87a it would've worked fine from the get go.

[Zs-ondabrain]

So what he's saying is the wrong relay caused the problem, the correct relay solved the problem.

Everything works as it should. Glad we figured it out. ya kinda threw me for a minute.

Black is ground

Blue red and green/black are power

Black/yellow is Hi speed

Blue is low speed (I think)

Blue white is the park (I think)

Hope that helps Tom

Dave