July 3, 201311 yr comment_426805 Thats a neat flex pipe Jeff. It would be interesting to see how it holds up. I agree with you on the dial indicator. You will regret going cheap on it, I did. Ended up tossing it in the garbage and spending the extra for a good Mitutoyo and magnetic foot.Chas Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 3, 201311 yr Author comment_426808 Isky sends a complete instruction sheet on finding true top dead center as well as degreeing a camshaft with each of their regrinds. Their precision ground cams are so precise that you can use the stock locating holes (according to them). I need to get those items anyway......who sells em? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 3, 201311 yr comment_426810 Guy, you can get everything at Grainger or on Amazon (what CAN'T you get on Amazon???). I got my Mitutoyo about 25 years ago. The only regret is that almost all of them read 0 - .5" and the cams have roughly a 0.450" lift, so it takes a lot of fiddling to get both the zero and max lift within the range of the indicator. They sell 0 - 1" range, but the price goes way up. Expect to pay over $200 for a 0 - .5" and quite a bit more for a 0 - 1". Go with 0.0005" resolution. Of course, you can find something WAY cheaper if you don't go with Mitutoyo. I'm sure Harbor Freight has them for $10 I think this is the modern equivalent to mine at Grainger for $226.50. MITUTOYO Digimatic Indicator, Battery - Electronic Digital Indicators - 5C711|543-783B - Grainger Industrial Supply The 0 - 1" jumps to $485.25. MITUTOYO Electronic Indicator, 0-1 In, Flat Back - Electronic Digital Indicators - 4GPY4|543-476B - Grainger Industrial Supply Here is a magnetic base by Mitutoyo for $201.50. MITUTOYO Magnetic Base - Indicator Holders, Bases, and Stands - 22N461|7033B - Grainger Industrial Supply The degree wheels can be found anywhere, but get a large one. The one I made is 16" diameter and it isn't too big. Summit Racing sells every size and brand. Edited July 3, 201311 yr by Jeff G 78 Typo Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 3, 201311 yr Author comment_426812 Thanks Jeff......I've never timed a cam before, so not sure where you contact the lifter. Also, since you are just ckecking number one at .050", isn't the 0 to .5" indicator good enough to time the cam? How about finding TDC with the head off? How much travel would you need in the dial indicator to locate exact TDC? BTW, back to the thread.....I picked up the block and pistons yesterday, so I should be moving on with my build shortly. Thanks Guy Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 3, 201311 yr comment_426813 Guy, the indicator goes on the valve spring cap and you need to go through the full lift, so .5" range is just barely enough, but I find myself moving it at least 4 or 5 times until it doesn't over travel at one end or the other. You need a bit of extra travel at both the top and bottom of the stroke, so 0.5" range minus cam lift at zero lash (0.460" in my case) is only 0.04" and then divide that by 2 and you end up with only 0.02" to work with at each end of the indicator stroke. Does that make sense?To find TDC with the head off would be simple with a dial indicator. When it comes time, I'll walk you through it rather than go into the details now.Make sure you take lots of pics and keep us posted on the engine build. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 4, 201311 yr Author comment_426872 Getting started on the build.....scrubbed out the block.....masked, inserted the plastic freeze plugs I got from Eiji. Cleaned out the head stud holes, attached an old front cover,acid etched primered, then Datsun blue.....looking good! The block was cleaned and bored .040 inches before painting.... Edited July 4, 201311 yr by Diseazd Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 4, 201311 yr comment_426875 Here's what I did last night. This was my first solo engine install. I've always at least had a spotter to watch the other side and help guide the engine into position. Here's the flex pipe on the end of the collector. You can see how it helps the alignment between the header and the exhaust pipe. I also added heat shielding to the tunnel to help keep my feet cool. I should have it running later today. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 4, 201311 yr Author comment_426876 You're a brave soul Jeff......I'm proud of you! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 5, 201311 yr Author comment_426955 More cool stuff restored or new....... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 5, 201311 yr comment_426959 Both are looking great! Hey Guy - how many engines/heads have you done? Whats your favorite one/combo? Are we going to see some triples ever? I know there are challanges with the Webers but my Mikuni's from Wolf Creek have been a blast - if you try it, it will put a big ole' Virginia grin on your face! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 5, 201311 yr Author comment_426961 Mitchell.....I think this is my favorite combo......I love how smooth the package is. I really don't know how many engine/heads I've done...counting 510's, I'd guess 20. I love building these little monsters. I really don't have the patience to futz with the triples, and the SU's give me all the rip I need. I'll never install less than a Stage III cam however.......good to hear from you....Regards. Guy Edited July 5, 201311 yr by Diseazd Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 5, 201311 yr comment_426963 Agreed - if I ever had to get into my head (in more ways than one) I'll pop out that Stage II and install a III. I totally agree! Dave Rebello tried to tell me, but I was afraid of a idle lope at the time. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/39741-new-engine/?&page=14#findComment-426963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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