April 29, 20204 yr comment_598330 And yes, I can pass air through stem and that hole: Blow.mp4 Edited April 29, 20204 yr by BlueZee Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 29, 20204 yr comment_598338 I wonder if that orifice equalizes pressure on both sides. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20204 yr comment_598397 @BlueZee, Thanks for the excellent pics and the video. Another Z mystery solved. Thanks again!! SurferD, What that orifice does is bleeds the vacuum out of the diaphragm canister that pulls on the throttle after the throttle opener has been actuated. Goes like this... When vacuum goes really high (like when decelerating with foot completely off the gas), the vacuum control valve will open and allow vacuum to be applied to the servo diaphragm. When that vacuum is applied to the servo diaphragm, it pulls on the throttle linkage and holds the carbs open a tiny bit to limit the intake manifold vacuum. Once the intake manifold vacuum drops below a certain point (adjustable with a screw), the control valve will close and additional vacuum will not be applied to the servo. But the cavity inside the servo still holds vacuum, and that little bleed hole's job is to let that vacuum bleed off so the servo diaphragm can relax and stop pulling on the throttle linkage. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20204 yr comment_598434 another brilliant answer Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 1, 20204 yr comment_598578 so what does the designation on the shaft end mean? I got a backup today and it's marked 71B6 compared to my original 66PH15. Maybe it's a lot number or date code. Probably one of those things we'll never know. Edited May 1, 20204 yr by SurferD Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 2, 20204 yr comment_598584 Sorry. Can't help you with that one. No idea! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 5, 20204 yr comment_598912 I finished refurb’ing mine. I obviously used paint and not plating. I don’t know what initial pressure setting to use so I adjusted until there wasn’t much resistance. To tighten its counterclockwise. The bellows is under a good amount of compression so it was a little hard to assemble. I upgraded the screws and lock washers to stainless also. As you can see I changed the set screw due it having to drill out the original. Interestingly they changed the bracket configuration on later models and took out the reinforcements. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 6, 20204 yr comment_598968 Looks great. I remember seeing an adjustment procedure in some of the literature. Probably one of the FSMs, but I don't know what year. I took a quick look and couldn't find it. It's in there somewhere though. Charts, lines, pressure readings... If you can't find anything, let me know and I'll dig again. Just remember the bellows are an atmospheric pressure compensating device. And the tighter you press the bellows in, the easier it is to actuate the throttle opener. In other words... If you don't have it adjusted in tight enough, it won't do squat. If you have it adjusted in too far, it will hang the idle up too long when you release the throttle. You want something between squat and too long. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 6, 20204 yr comment_598970 It was bugging me, so I had another look. 1974 FSM Engine Tune-Up section. ET-16. Thorough description of the system along with way too complicate adjustment procedures. I stand by my "between squat and too long", but if you want to follow the factory's procedure... Their description is on ET-21 and 22. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-598970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 7, 20204 yr comment_599035 good find I have a 1971 FSM but didn't verify if it has the procedure Edited May 7, 20204 yr by SurferD Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-599035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 8, 20204 yr comment_599076 I don't have a copy of the 71, but I found some adjustment info in the 72 manual. EC-19 and EC-20. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-599076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 13, 20204 yr comment_602561 Question to @Captain Obvious and @SurferD: are your servo diaphragms (item 5 on a drawing) airtight? I am asking, cause I've checked two that I have in my garage - and both are leaking. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/4081-throttle-opener-control-system/?&page=3#findComment-602561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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