Posted May 30, 201212 yr comment_391584 Well in an effort to get my Z ready for a rally I decided to address the tired front suspension... In particular the Ball Joints, Outer Tie Rods, sway bar bushings, T/C rod bushings, and control arm bushings. Things started off nice enough... All bolts came off with no issues. I still have to remove the steering knuckle, but I am sure an impact wrench will make quick work of it. Well I had the OEM bushings pressed out the of the front control arms and immediately hit a snag. One of these things is NOT like the other... Well DRAT! They look like they came from two totally different cars in this picture. I have no idea which one is right for my car. The left or right... Now I am not sure what I am more upset about. Having to find another set, or the fact that I paid to have the bearings pressed out of what was obviously a bent lower arm. Guess I am on the hunt for another set. Actually, the one that was bent was the driver side, and that was the only side I had rubbing on the body work when I ran 205/60/15's rubber. I wonder if that had anything to do with it? Guess I will find out. Now I need to source another set. I really would rather NOT pay for the Arizona Z car set up. Just too much money for a street car. Edited May 30, 201212 yr by Zedyone_kenobi Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr Author comment_391587 Doing some research, I found that www.futofab.com the folks who bring us the VTO wheels, sell a front lower control arm and TC rod kit. It is found here for reference:http://www.futofab.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=28&Itemid=86The problem it is not really cheap and I do not really think it is needed for a street car. It may be a big overkill. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr comment_391588 Totally off topic, but your garage looks fantastic... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr comment_391589 Haha!! I was thinking the exact same thing! I was so distracted by reflections off the floor that I didn't even read the text. Is there something wrong with his car? the fact that I paid to have the bearings pressed out of what was obviously a bent lower arm. Seriously though... Are you sure that it was bent before it went on the press? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr comment_391590 Seems you found the only pot hole in Houston. That's not easy to do. Must have been a real nice one. Love my azc control arms.... And there's no way a garage that clean gets used for anything serious and I have spare controls arms if you need one. Some may not even be bent! Edited May 31, 201212 yr by zKars Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr comment_391593 I put techno toy tuning lca's and traction control arms on my car. Talk about overkill- the company owner told me they are engineered for off road rallying. I'll be diving under them during our next earthquake.The benefit is that you can adjust camber and castor, which corrects significant shortcomings in the stock version Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr Author comment_391598 Double DRAT I was cleaning parts to reassemble and the TC rod on that side is also slightly bent. SO it would seem now I need an entire side replaced. I can promise you I did not hit anything. What I think happened is that somebody jacked up the car on that side once upon a time. There is a slight bend on the bottom. now having said that, I am NOT sure it was not bent before I let the group of Cletus's (no offense to anybody named Cletus out there) at this machine shop press it out. But no way I can prove it and no way they will admit to anything so we still come back to where I am at. I need a new lower control arm and TC rod. I already purchased the Poly bushings for the lower control arms, AND the ball and socket TC rod ends (which will replace the hard as hell poly bushings people warned me against when I first installed them). The AZC and the FutoFab gives similar adjustments tlorber. Here is the thing though. Those types of adjustments are only good if you KNOW WHAT your doing. I use to autocross my subarus rather extensively in SCCA type stuff a couple of years ago. I kept my suspension pretty much stock and just kept practicing while my friends tinkered with adjustable this, adjustable that every run and never got anything settled in hoping for that magic WOW moment where the suspension would make up for ham fisted driving. I would pony up for the Futofab or the AZC or the techno Toys, if there was a good baseline setting I could get her close to OEM but maybe a bit better. If not, I could easily do more harm than a well sorted OEM fitment. As for my garage, yeah, I keep it mopped and shined up before during and after every job. In about 3 weeks there will be an engine/tranny swap. But that is an entirely different thread! Edited May 31, 201212 yr by Zedyone_kenobi Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr Author comment_391600 So techno toys = 595 dollarsFuto Fab = 465AZC = ?????Just buying the OEM lower control am and TC rod from Zcarsource.com = 140 bucks Still the new fancy shiny stuff is enticing! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr comment_391601 Get a sandblaster and some POR! Gallery Link Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr comment_391610 So techno toys = 595 dollarsFuto Fab = 465AZC = ?????Just buying the OEM lower control am and TC rod from Zcarsource.com = 140 bucks Still the new fancy shiny stuff is enticing!I should have a spare LCA and TC rod. How's $50 shipped for the set?Chuck Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr Author comment_391611 Just let me know how you want payment!!!paypalcertified checkpassenger pigeonrare earth mineralsOld NASA space hardwareYou have a deal bud Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 31, 201212 yr comment_391613 Passenger pigeon it is! Maybe PayPal is more reliable? I should be able to box it up tonight and ship it tomorrow. Sound good?ChuckPayPal: cbuczesk@comcast.net Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43379-front-end-refresh-oh-oh/#findComment-391613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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