JDM s30 headlight covers,,,,,,,,,,700$

[Carl Beck]

Corrosion on the underside of the Stainless Trim Rings

Lack of having the original rubber seals with them

Lack of having the original mounting hardware

The Sellers comments - that they "look new", and the fact that he doesn't have the original box etc. If you get a set of Headlight covers out of the box, without the mounting hardware - and you bought them second hand from another person - none of that adds up to stating that they are "NEW". IF he wanted to discribe them as being in "like new" condition - I could see that. I just think that listing them as "NEW" then adding "see details" is misleading at best.

FWIW,

Carl B.

Edited August 29, 2012 by Carl Beck

[geezer]

Some are stainless, some are not but I have forgotten which is which. I had my non-stainless set rechromed. I have heard of the stainless variety splitting which was caused by over tightening the fasteners or ill fitting components. They are sometimes difficult to fit correctly and really are not that well made. Photos can be decieving and the gaskets may have been left out of the pics. I would ask the seller more questions if interested.

[psdenno]

One thing that can be said is - - you wind up with a spare bedroom full of parts!!

The second thing that can be said is - your wife tells you its time to clean that "stuff" out!!

The third thing that can be said is - it takes a long time to inventory everything, find the Part Numbers, Descriptions and Prices..

FWIW,

Carl B

So far, my 40 year collection of Porsche, Avanti, and Datsun spares hasn't encountered any of the above. However, the garage sale or trip to the dump that my family will deal with after I'm gone makes me chuckle.

Dennis

[EScanlon]

Corrosion on the underside of the Stainless Trim Rings

Lack of having the original rubber seals with them

Lack of having the original mounting hardware

The Sellers comments - that they "look new", and the fact that he doesn't have the original box etc. If you get a set of Headlight covers out of the box, without the mounting hardware - and you bought them second hand from another person - none of that adds up to stating that they are "NEW". IF he wanted to discribe them as being in "like new" condition - I could see that. I just think that listing them as "NEW" then adding "see details" is misleading at best.

FWIW,

Carl B.

I looked for the corrosion you mention and all I can detect is the off-color discoloration of the gasket film adhesive. I have a couple sets of these and the gasket has a shiny adhesive side which when the protective film is removed gets attached to the metal. Once you peel off the film protecting the adhesive, the off-color yellow/brown film is gone.

The original rubber seals are visible mounted on the metal protecting the Lexan. Additionally, the seals do not show any holes being poked through in the mounting holes. It is possible that they just pushed the screw through, but then it would have distorted the seal, and the shiny film wouldn't be straight.

Not showing the mounting hardware, conceded, but it may be a simple matter of not including it in the pictures as opposed to assuming he does not have it. Ask the seller the question to verify.

As far as the Seller saying they "look new"... where? Are you sure you're not reading into it?

Here is his description and the answer to one question:

"Chrome Trimmed, 4 point surface flush mount Datsun Z Headlight Covers

Difficult to find, very few have the chrome, most are the plexi with gasket.

These mount over the headlight bucket, not in it.

4 screws, ready to go. Avoid silicone, it only traps moisture and will fog up!

My project is gone, so these are going too!

Thanks for looking!"

Question:

"Q: Hi Any cracks or damage to plastic lense or metal trim ring?? Thanks

A: Absolutely no damage. They don't appear to have ever been installed."

Not having the original box is reason for his listing it as New-Other and not New.

The "See Details" is e-Bay's footnote to read the details.

This are e-Bay's details of "New-Other":

"New other (see details): A new, unused item with absolutely no signs of wear. The item may be missing the original packaging, or in the original packaging but not sealed. The item may be a factory second, or a new, unused item with defects. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections."

Otherwise, I don't see any reason to doubt this seller.

E

[Zedyone_kenobi]

I am so tempted to bid on these.

I really really want these.

But my gosh the price is crazy

[Taz0162]

I still like the clean no cover stock look

[72 OJ]

I, one day , soon I hope, will pull the trigger and secure this type of covers for my Z

[Carl Beck]

I looked for the corrosion you mention and all I can detect is the off-color discoloration of the gasket film adhesive. I have a couple sets of these and the gasket has a shiny adhesive side which when the protective film is removed gets attached to the metal.

Hi E.

Humm... that's interesting. I have an NOS set - and the gasket comes from the factory attached to the "body side" of the plexiglass cover - then the trim ring goes on top of the plexiglass. The rubbber seal on mine would never come in contact with the stainless/chrome trim ring. Mine are 63900 & 63901-4621 If the rubber seal were in place, you would not see the lip of the trim ring though the plexiglass cover.

I suppose that if the rubber seal were peeled off the plexiglass cover - that could account for the discoloration I'm seeing. But why would anyone remove the seal from the cover on a NEW set of headlight covers?

Once you peel off the film protecting the adhesive, the off-color yellow/brown film is gone.

There is no film protecting the adhesive - the rubber seal is already attached to the plexiglass from the factory, and side that meets the body is smooth rubber.

The original rubber seals are visible mounted on the metal protecting the Lexan. Additionally, the seals do not show any holes being poked through in the mounting holes. It is possible that they just pushed the screw through, but then it would have distorted the seal, and the shiny film wouldn't be straight.

I don't believe that we are seeing the rubber seals. The rubber seals on my set at least - come from the factory with the hole pre-punched, the hole in the plexiglass pre-drilled - you can't see the hole in the plexiglass with the rubber seal in place.

Not showing the mounting hardware, conceded, but it may be a simple matter of not including it in the pictures as opposed to assuming he does not have it. Ask the seller the question to verify.

I sent him the Question - 8/28 - no reply yet nor has the Question been Posted to his listing. I also believe that if he had the mounting hardware - he would know it takes more than 4 screws to mount them.

As far as the Seller saying they "look new"... where? Are you sure you're not reading into it?

Yes - I could have been reading that into it. Reviewing his reply about the condition it states. "They don't appear to have ever been installed."

Just my opinon - but I think they have been installed, and they should be sold as "USED". The seller may be unaware of what is missing - unaware that the seals have been removed.. etc. All of that is the difference between a USED set for $800.00 and a NOS set for $1400.00.

FWIW,

Carl B.

[Zedyone_kenobi]

Well I put my bid in and it was quickly shot down FAST

[jfa.series1]

Well I put my bid in and it was quickly shot down FAST

I had the same results with a few women in my life!

[jfa.series1]

$930 bid with 3 hours to go!

[hr369]

$930 bid with 3 hours to go!

is that a new record?