Posted October 2, 201212 yr comment_403133 Following up on two threads from the past few months:http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/thread46932.htmlhttp://www.classiczcars.com/forums/thread46662.htmlQuick Recap: Transmission grinds when I start to put it in gear. I've replaced:- Replaced Clutch Master Cylinder - Replaced Clutch Slave Cylinder- Replaced Entire Clutch Kit- Bled SystemEnsured proper travel at the Slave Cylinder. Ensured the Master Clinder is fully extended. If I put it in gear and start it (with a push) I can go around the block in gear, just can't shift (obviously). So I'm totally out of ideas. I can't imagine why else the clutch wouldn't engage. The only saving grace is that I'm swapping the motor / transmission in the next month or two, it's just frustrating to not have gotten this thing moving after so long. Rebuilt those #%*& DGV carbs for no reason... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44570-transmission-grinding/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 2, 201212 yr comment_403134 My guess is that you have the wrong length collar. I can't think of anything else that it could be.Chuck Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44570-transmission-grinding/#findComment-403134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 2, 201212 yr Author comment_403136 Could be, Chuck. It's an L24 block, a 240z bell housing, and complete 240z clutch kit, so I'd hope it's all "correct" but clearly something isn't. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44570-transmission-grinding/#findComment-403136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 2, 201212 yr comment_403143 I have a bunch of spare collars of different lengths if you want to try one.Chuck Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44570-transmission-grinding/#findComment-403143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 2, 201212 yr comment_403151 Could be, Chuck. It's an L24 block, a 240z bell housing, and complete 240z clutch kit, so I'd hope it's all "correct" but clearly something isn't.In my limited experience - there is no such thing as a "240Z clutch kit". The original Pressure Plates that came in the 70/73 240Z's from the Factory were thicker than the later 280Z Pressure Plates. In the past 10 years, I've never received a new Pressure Plate that was the same thickness as the original factory Pressure Plates that came in the 240Z's when they were produced.No matter if you "order" a 240Z Pressure Plate or not - you most likely won't get one. What you will get is the newer replacement parts - which are in fact the thinner 280Z pressure plates.In that case - you have to get a 280Z or 280ZX Throwout Bearing Collar.The problem you describe sounds like you put the old 240Z Throwout Bearing Collar - in with a newer style -ie thinner - Pressure Plate.Question: Did You Keep The Old Pressure Plate Handy? If so - set it side by side on a flat surface and see if it is the same height as the new one - when you pull the new one out. Measure the distance between the flat surface and the top of the pressure plate "fingers".Of course - another cause for the problem you describe -is that the Clutch Disk can bond itself to the flywheel with Rust - if that car has been sitting without being driven for months and months.FWIW,Carl B. Edited October 2, 201212 yr by Carl Beck Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44570-transmission-grinding/#findComment-403151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 2, 201212 yr comment_403162 Just curious how high does your engine idle? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44570-transmission-grinding/#findComment-403162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 3, 201212 yr Author comment_403223 Carl, Chuck, Thanks for the replies. Question: Did You Keep The Old Pressure Plate Handy? Yes, I certainly did. I'll compare them the next (third... [groan]) time I remove the transmission. Frustrating to think I bought a kit and it wouldn't work, but I suppose when it's not from Nissan, it wouldn't be guaranteed anyway. Of course - another cause for the problem you describe -is that the Clutch Disk can bond itself to the flywheel with Rust... This was my first thought; one of the above referenced threads documents my attempt to free that. The first time I dropped the transmission, I was looking for this rust but it wasn't there. The new parts have only been in for about 3-4 weeks. Chuck - I may need to take you up on this; but first I need to see if the new transmission has all the parts. I appreciate the offer and will keep it in mind going forward. Engine idles around 1k; I still need to fine-tune the carbs idle. Was interested in getting it moving first. If anyone wants some DGVs let me know. They'll be obsolete sometime this winter. This has been a giant lesson in humility, that's for sure. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44570-transmission-grinding/#findComment-403223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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