October 11, 201212 yr Author comment_403910 Well I've gone completely through the fuel system including having the tank redone. No change. Tomorrow its dizzy time.Don Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-403910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 11, 201212 yr comment_403937 Don, So are you running SU's ?Have you or do you know how to set float levels?You stated that the car feels like it is running out of gas- maybe it is! Float level is very important , and revving it up in the garage tells you nothing about loading float level. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-403937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 12, 201212 yr Author comment_404029 I took the dizzy out and there was some rust on the thin metal plates also one ball bearing is missing. I've been trying to find a rebuilt or replacement. and the only think I can find is from Mallory. Does anyone have any other suggests?Thanks Don Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-404029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 12, 201212 yr Author comment_404033 Another question: When I had this car and it was new, I was able to tune the car to a point when the tail pipe was gray inside. At this condition the car was tuned perfectly. For many years I have not been able to achieve this level of tune. I've begin to think that the gray came from the fact that I was running 100 octane gas. Remember it was available in 1972. Anyone have thoughts on this idea?Thanks Don Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-404033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 12, 201212 yr comment_404035 What is a dizzy? Either a distributor or a blonde date you KNOW you're going to get lucky with. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-404035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 12, 201212 yr comment_404036 Lack of power is often due to problems breathing. Restricted air intake or plugged exhaust.Put a vacuum gauge on it and see what's going on.http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-404036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 12, 201212 yr comment_404038 Pertronix on your dizzy or an e12 80 from a zx . I would recommend the zx dizzy and don't look back. Search it and you will find all the info Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-404038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 12, 201212 yr comment_404054 Check with the dealer, some of these parts are still available from them.I'll check for the part number later so you can call them with it, but maybe someone will beat me to it.Additionally, the ZX dizzy is a simple swap system and those CAN be obtained through auto parts stores. You want the 79 280 ZX with the E12-80 module.E Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-404054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 13, 201212 yr Author comment_404095 Thanks Wade, I needed that!Don Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-404095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 17, 201212 yr comment_404499 I've been through very similar problems that you describe. I felt foolish for making the situation more complex than it was. The car was fine on flat roads but climbing a big hill and accelerating hard would show the power loss right away. I ASSUMED that it had to be something out of the ordinary. I was wrong. It simply needed a fresh fuel filter. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-404499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 25, 201212 yr Author comment_405255 I've been through very similar problems that you describe. I felt foolish for making the situation more complex than it was. The car was fine on flat roads but climbing a big hill and accelerating hard would show the power loss right away. I ASSUMED that it had to be something out of the ordinary. I was wrong. It simply needed a fresh fuel filter.Altabow, thanks for the input. I started out with the same idea. I have changed filters, cleaned all of the gas lines and even had the tank reconditioned. I'm now working on the dizzy approach to the problem. The thin gun metal metal plates in the dizzy were rusted and the shaft on the updated dizzy had begun to sizes up. Finding a replacement has been a bit of a challenge. I have found an original single point dizzy for my car and I'm looking for rebuild with electronic interior parts. If anyone has suggestions I'm open for ideas.Thanks Don Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-405255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 26, 201212 yr comment_405322 I had a very similar problem on my car, my 73 has an electric fuel pump by the tank and a brand new mechanical pump on the engine. The car would run fine up to about 50 mph, rev in neutral, etc, but if I tried to cruise at freeway speed or go up a steep hill it'd bog and die. I monkeyed with the distributor for weeks to no avail. The electric fuel pump's wiring was out of whack and it wasn't running and the disabled electric pump in the way was just enough of a restriction to flow that it caused cavitation and basically vapor lock as soon as the nose went much higher than the tail-end of the car, it's gotta suck the fuel against gravity. I disconnected the electric pump and ran a fuel line straight from the tank to the body hardline (to the mechanical pump) and no more problem.A help in that diagnosis was throwing an inexpensive fuel pressure gauge on by the carbs, with the non-functional electric pump in place my fuel pressure was low-ish and fluctuated quite a lot between around 2 and 3.5 psi at 1000 rpm, but with it removed from the equation my fuel pressure was rock solid around 4 psi which is right where it ought to be.Also, when it comes to the electronic distributor, I have one out of a 280zx and it had the same smashed plastic ball bearing carrier that is oh so common with those, I sourced a pair of sintered bronze oil impregnated bushings and replaced the whole ball-bearing assembly with bushings. Vac pulls it just fine as far as I can tell. I took the unit off my car though because the vacuum advance curve wasn't to my liking and I was trying to revert all the changes I made to my car trying to hunt down the aforementioned problem caused by a nonfunctional fuel pump. Edited October 26, 201212 yr by Captain_Zeros Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/44617-240-runs-out-of-power-under-load-ie-going-up-hills/?&page=2#findComment-405322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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