July 2, 201311 yr comment_426774 Can you elaborate more about what's blocked off and do you have anymore pictures showing the induction system ? The smog stuff is actually unhooked at the source, only using blocked tubes to seal off any leaks, I haven't gotten around to making the blockoff plates for everything yet, as this current issue is draining every bit of mental capacity I can put towards the car . I'll get some nipples to cover all the spots, or if you think maybe the parts are internally broken and hemorraghing through to the exterior, like a vac leak thru the housings. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-426774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 13, 201311 yr Author comment_427531 Do you have access to any spare carbs that you could bolt on?I borrowed a pair from my buddy off his 240z, and they did similar, but what they would do is let you idle it down to 700 and stay running fine for a while. Then after about 5min or so, it would just act like you turned the key off(with the exception that it would still reverse rotate and spew smoke from the relief vents of carbs). Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-427531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 13, 201311 yr Author comment_427532 Can you elaborate more about what's blocked off and do you have anymore pictures showing the induction system ?Yes, I can take more pics. All vacuum hoses that lead directly to a vacuum source have been blocked off, so any/all accessories you see with vacuum hoses are just dead hoses. I'll eventually mill down the blockoff plates I made for all the components and install them, just been super busy with work. Also, the heater crossover channel(preheats manifold)has been blocked off internally. I need to figure out how to get the screw-in hose barbs out to replace with brass plugs.....they look like they're in there pretty good, didn't want to break one.I'll get more detailed pics when I get back, gotta go outta town, cousin is getting married in Indiana. I don't like that drive. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-427532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 2, 201311 yr comment_428965 I couldn't help notice that you were measuring 23mm below the top edge of the bowl.According to the factory manual, the 23mm starts from the bottom of the float bowllid. Turns out the distance from the bottom of the float bowl lid to the bottom of thelid is exactly 3mm, if you don't count the thickness of the gasket, the proper levelfor the fuel would then be 20mm below the top edge of the bowl. Nobody has eversaid how accurate this has to be, but we know if the level is too high, we get a rich mixture.I re-read your comment, I measured 3.0mm, you measured 3.4mm, close enough.It's so much easier to just measure 20mm down from the edge, why is everybody stuck on 23mm?Jim Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-428965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 28, 201311 yr Author comment_430618 Well I stopped trying to figure it out for now, got alot of body work to do. But if someone could confirm their advance at these 3 rpms, it would give me an idea of which way to adjust. With the vac advance hooked up, in neutral, no engine load. 18 degrees @2200rpm, 15 degrees @2000rpm, 12 degrees @1800rpm. If I adjust idle to 1700, you can hear it go from a perfectly smooth idle to an every so often hiccup, like it's either loading up or ignition is being cut for a split second.....then adjusting down to about 1650rpm will make it die and do it's reverse rotate thing.Floats are set per Blue's post, and that's with the jets set to 2 turns down. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-430618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 20, 201311 yr Author comment_432094 Well, I found something interesting. When I began to idle it down, the moment it starts acting up is when the spark becomes erratic, then I lose spark and it stalls, then regains spark the second it begins to reverse rotate. Talk about weird. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-432094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 1, 201311 yr Author comment_432734 Ok, I reversed the polarity on the ignition control module, where it reads the spark trigger, and it fires right up and idles fine(with a slight hiccup every so often). So used that time to make sure carbs were set, advance was correct, etc etc etc. Only prob with running reverse polarity is you cannot rev it any, it'll only idle(set idle to 700rpm). Reversed the polarity back to correct, and it still does the same thing. Base timing is at 9 degrees advanced, advance tube plugged. Everything is doing right, but now have an issue. My old service manual is well used, especially in the ignition areas. I need to know what to set the hall effect trigger to, as far as gap is concerned. I cannot see the numbers, too much smudge. Local guy told me that I can't just set it to almost touching, without touching, because it would cause the ignition module to see too many breaks in the magnetic field, and the spark control would be all over the place. So I guess I can't set it like I do the gap on an old magneto engine. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-432734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 1, 201311 yr comment_432738 Just make sure to use brass feeler gauges . Maybe .010 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-432738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 4, 201311 yr Author comment_432949 Ok, set to .010", and it idles down to about 1300 then loses spark. Set to .008", and it's down to about 1000rpm, any lower and it loses spark. I tried adjusting to .006", but the very bottom of the "fins" on the dizzy shaft are touching the pickup. The fins look like they're straight until the very bottom, and they stick out a little. I figured I'd been ripped and gotten sent a worn out dizzy, so I ordered a new one and the fins are the exact same way. Anyone notice their electronic dizzy's "6-point star piece" on the shaft being shaped like this? The gap throughout top to bottom is the same, except the very bottom, each "fin" of the star piece has a lip that sticks out a little farther? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-432949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 4, 201311 yr comment_432988 Madkaw, why brass?C Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-432988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 4, 201311 yr comment_432990 Non-magnetic Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-432990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 201311 yr Author comment_433824 Ok, I kept going down in size of feelers until it would idle at 400rpm, so I'm guessing the size it requires is .004". I had to mill the bottom lip off each fin so it wouldn't scrub the pickup, but everything seems to work fine now. Thanks a bunch, this thread can be closed now. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/46862-weird-dysfunctional-su-carb-issue-rebuilt-and-floats-reset-going-on-8-times-now/?&page=3#findComment-433824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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