Posted October 16, 201311 yr comment_433842 Having trouble when cranking my 260. I turn the key and it'll turn over briefly before abruptly stopping like its locking up. Does the same thing every time.I thought it could be a starter motor problem so I took it off and bench tested it, there was just over 1v volt drop while the motor was spinning which I've been told proves the starters fine?It's a brand new battery. Engine turns over fine by hand.Anyone got any ideas?Thanks, Dave. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 201311 yr comment_433847 How is the ignition timing? Sounds like it's too advanced. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 201311 yr comment_433848 Give some information on the state of the system before the problem. Did it start and run right before or is this one of those "ran when parked ten years ago" projects?In the mean-time I would pull the spark plugs, spin the engine, and see if any fluids come out. Gas, water, or oil can all cause hydraulic locking. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 201311 yr comment_433849 Is the firing order correct? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 201311 yr comment_433851 Simple things first. Often the ign switch is not getting full voltage to the trigger contact on the starter. Re-install it and short out the trigger contact (where black/yellow spade connector goes) to the main fat battery wire terminal on the starter. IF it spins nice and fast and normal, then its the ign switch or the connections between there and the starter. Start by replacing the spade connector on the end of the wire at the starter. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 201311 yr Author comment_433852 Is the firing order correct? I assumed the engine would crank on the starter even if there was a ignition problem.I'ts worth looking at timing issues then?Has been sitting along time, I've been doing strictly body repair. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 201311 yr Author comment_433853 I'll try shorting out the switch and then look at timing. Thanks Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 201311 yr comment_433855 Engine turns over fine by hand.I missed this part. Good luck with it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 17, 201311 yr comment_433870 If your timing is too advanced or you have your spark plug wires rearranged it'll act like that, a real simple check for that is to pull the low voltage power cable off the coil and see if the engine will crank over quickly with ignition out of the picture. I've got a 280zx electronic distributor on my car and it doesn't have much mechanical advance so I have it pretty advanced at low rpm so everything will be happy up at RPM. It causes a bit of a hard start. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 17, 201311 yr comment_433874 I assumed the engine would crank on the starter even if there was a ignition problem.The reason people have suggested an ignition timing issue or plug wires on the wrong plugs is because if you get a spark too early as the piston is coming up, the explosion inside the cylinder will push back down on the piston and fight the starter. If this happens, the explosion will stop the starter spinning very abruptly like you described.Pull the coil wire out of the center of the distributor cap and lay it against the engine. Then crank the engine over while that coil wire is removed and if the problem goes away, then you know it's some sort of ignition timing problem.I took it off and bench tested it, there was just over 1v volt drop while the motor was spinning which I've been told proves the starters fine?And I don't think your starter is the problem, but the above wouldn't tell you much anyway. Under a no load condition, I don't think you'd learn much from measuring the voltage drop across the starter. It's more of a current thing than a voltage thing. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 17, 201311 yr comment_433883 Pulling the high tension coil wire from the center of the distributor cap is not recommended. Pull the positive 12 volt power supply wire from the + terminal on the coil, it'll have the same effect without high voltage trying to hunt its way to ground willy nilly. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 17, 201311 yr Author comment_433911 Yeah, thanks for the help all! It was infact advanced timing causing the trouble.I'm learning. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/47724-260z-cranking-trouble/#findComment-433911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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