On collecting cars for future value....

The least produced model and year seems to be the 260z 2+2. Is this worth collecting based on rarity or are the 2+2's uglier and less sporty features the main factors that will outweigh any collectible value.

On collecting cars for future value....

The least produced model and year seems to be the 260z 2+2. Is this worth collecting based on rarity or are the 2+2's uglier and less sporty features the main factors that will outweigh any collectible value.

You probably summed it up nicely, although I'm sure there are more than a few 2+2 owners who would disagree.

As for any collectible value of any Z that doesn't have a famous previous owner or stellar race pedigree, don't plan on it as part of a retirement portfolio. Enjoy the Z for what it is and continue to pour more money into it than it wii ever return. Works for me for the last 42 years.

Dennis

I hear you but I don't want to miss the 2+2 boat (if there is a boat).

I hear you but I don't want to miss the 2+2 boat (if there is a boat).

I don't think that boat's going to sail. If you stop to think about why people originally bought a Z, it wasn't so they could carry three friends along for the ride. The 2+2 filled a need, but at a cost as you noted above. The two seater is the one with demand. I doubt that there were any high school kids drawing Datsun 2+2 sketches on their notebook covers during Social Studies class back in the 1970s. Opinions may vary. :classic:

Dennis

the early '74 2+2 is actually one of my favorite iterations. i like the stretched body with the short bumpers. i plan to have one if i come across the right car at the right time... but... i'm DEFINITELY in the minority there... and i'm NOT selling the 2 seater to buy one.

The least produced model and year seems to be the 260z 2+2.

Hardly.

Try thinking about the PS30-SB, PS30, HS30-H etc etc before you get into limo territory....

Hardly.

Try thinking about the PS30-SB, PS30, HS30-H etc etc before you get into limo territory....

Alan, Would the PS30-SB Fairlady Z432-R be the rarest of the lot?

Alan, Would the PS30-SB Fairlady Z432-R be the rarest of the lot?

I think it's a given. A distinct model - quite different in the metal ( and plastic! ) from its siblings - and with somewhere around 25 cars produced for homologation in JAF's 'Prototype' class ( depending which ones you count... ) it has to be the rarest model in the whole S30-series Z range. Think of it as the equivalent of the Porsche 911R - its inspiration - and it starts to make more sense.

Next up would have to be the 'ordinary' ( but extraordinary ) PS30 Fairlady Z 432 with around 420-ish built. Then perhaps the other factory 'homologation special' - the HS30-H Fairlady 240ZG with 500 built ( the minimum for FIA Group 4 homologation ) or perhaps slightly more.

In terms of distinct factory models that were made to be sold to the general public, I'm sure that the PS30-SB, PS30 and HS30-H are the top three in terms of rarity and current market value.

Alan T.

You probably summed it up nicely, although I'm sure there are more than a few 2+2 owners who would disagree.

As for any collectible value of any Z that doesn't have a famous previous owner or stellar race pedigree, don't plan on it as part of a retirement portfolio. Enjoy the Z for what it is and continue to pour more money into it than it wii ever return. Works for me for the last 42 years.

Dennis

Maybe their are still to much early z's intact and to be found so the value will not rise much. I do know that here in The Netherlands and in Europe they are pretty rare and parts are very difficult to find, but because they are not known well like a Porsche or Jaguar E-type, their value is still low..

My 10/69 FairladyZL had an offer of $14K

If the upcoming Z35 is a "new 240z/ prefixS30suffix" then it may stimulate more interest and awareness of the car.

but then again the world is getting dumber....DIGRESSION: I just checked in at the airport moments ago and none of the 3 ladies operating the check in counter knew where Panama was nor have they heard of the Panama Canal.... one asked where in the USA Panama was?....gives one confidence that the baggage will arrive ... and pray that their fellow alumni of this decade do not do maintenance on the plane.

I think it's a given. A distinct model - quite different in the metal ( and plastic! ) from its siblings - and with somewhere around 25 cars produced for homologation in JAF's 'Prototype' class ( depending which ones you count... ) it has to be the rarest model in the whole S30-series Z range. Think of it as the equivalent of the Porsche 911R - its inspiration - and it starts to make more sense.

Next up would have to be the 'ordinary' ( but extraordinary ) PS30 Fairlady Z 432 with around 420-ish built. Then perhaps the other factory 'homologation special' - the HS30-H Fairlady 240ZG with 500 built ( the minimum for FIA Group 4 homologation ) or perhaps slightly more.

In terms of distinct factory models that were made to be sold to the general public, I'm sure that the PS30-SB, PS30 and HS30-H are the top three in terms of rarity and current market value.

Alan T.

Very cool! Thanks for the all the great information, Alan. Just curious, how many of the approximately 25 original PS30-SB Fairlady Z432-R cars are known to exist today? Also, any idea of what the approximate market values of a nice un-restored car and a restored car would be in today's market?