low mileage or rollback??

[okdan]

Was looking at this 19,000 mile ZX that just popped up on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2404886579&category=6187

In the photo of the odometer the numbers seem uneven

Was thinking this is a tell tale sign that the odometer has been rolled back??????? Wondering what others thought?

Okie Dan

[DatsunZGuy]

that interior looks pretty rough for a car that has under 20K. I wish they would have added some photos of the engine comparment.

The contrast of the shiny exterior paint (white no less) against that faded interior makes me wonder if it was repainted.

If I were interested in the car, a request for a complete paper trail of documentation would be in order.

[2ManyZs]

Looks like a probable "roll-back" to me. The wear on the seats is a dead giveaway, not only is the leather faded, but it looks to be worn almost to the point it's falling to pieces....

It says the car was stored in the winter? Where? In the hot sun of Miami?

I'd say anyone that is interested in this car better do a CarFax report on it first....

[texasz]

Looks like a roll back to me! The uneven numbers are typical of this ploy.

I also agree about the extreme wear on the interior, this car have been sat in for well over 20k miles. That is unless the person lived in it...:classic:

The paint issue is also suspect, why is the interior looking so faded and the paint looks to be right off the lot? I say repainted!

CarFax is a great idea, an even better one may be just to stay away from this car.

[2ManyZs]

Just for the heck of it I started one of the CarFax reports on the VIN number, it said there were 3 reports on the car. If you want to read the reports, of course you have to pay for it.

Seems kinda odd that a car that supposedly has less than 20K on it has any reports at all.....

[ZmeFly]

it does seem hard to believe that a car with 20k and ive seen them with 60k and look better inside then that one does.

i agree with keith also this is to funny about storing the car in the winter, in miami where its now or was today 78 degrees.

god i wish i had to deal with that

[Mr Camouflage]

What happens when you get to 999999 miles, does it roll over back to 000000? if so, to "roll back" you just attach a drill to the speedo cable and crank it over untill you get to the miles you want. the other method i've heard is taking the speedo apart, which is very dodgey indeed. The ferris bueller method doesn't work (as it didn't work for him either) thats where you jack up the car and run it in reverse.

VB to VK Commodore odomoters stop working around 150000 kms, guarenteed!.

low mile cars also have problems associated with lack of use. flatspot on the wheel bearings, corrosion, etc.

[texasz]

When an odometer reaches 999999 or for some other models it would be 99999 it does roll over to all 0s. This is just a question I hope. Ther is no way this car has over 1 million miles on it, otherwise I'm sure that we would have all heard about it by now.

[Mr Camouflage]

Not the car just the odometer. Ive heard about attaching the speedo cable to a drill and leaving it running to change odometer readings. Just wondered if it was a urban (used car salesman) legend.

[okdan]

I knew a guy back in 82 who owned a zx with the digital dash --- he put in a chip that split the miles. When he was going 80 the speedometer said he was going 40 -- therefor for every 80 miles driven the car only registered 40 miles.

Just for laughs I contacted the seller of this car -- and asked him to explain all the inconsistencies between condition and mileage

This was his response

>i am a dealer and can prove the miles. odometer is original,the vehicle has been owned by our dealerships attorney.

I think this cements the fact that the miles are fraudulent

[carguyinok]

Originally posted by Mr Camouflage

Not the car just the odometer. Ive heard about attaching the speedo cable to a drill and leaving it running to change odometer readings. Just wondered if it was a urban (used car salesman) legend.

Yes, it's true. I think it was in the 80s the car makers changed over from cable driven speedos to elec. The cable driven speedos could be hooked up on a drill and run. The down side is that most drills will only run around 15 - 20 MPH. so do the math on how long this could take. :stupid:

Not that its worth the time anyway. Most titles have the miles printed on them for what it was at time of transfer.

Was thinking this is a tell tale sign that the odometer has been rolled back???????

YES, with that odometer it has 6 numbers not 5 like the early cars. The numbers will jog with that odometer as the miles change BUT look at the first number. The one is starting to come up (you can see the top of it) this should not be unless the miles are around 99,000 .

Who would want to turn back the miles on a zx anyway :stupid:

What happens when you get to 999999 miles, does it roll over back to 000000?

Yes.

Just for laughs I contacted the seller of this car -- and asked him to explain all the inconsistencies between condition and mileage

This was his response

>i am a dealer and can prove the miles. odometer is original,the vehicle has been owned by our dealerships attorney.

Hmmm I would stay far away from a dealership that say's they have a attorney on the staff. That attorney must be good if there running to the court house in a $2500 ZX

[owenk]

If the seller is a dealer then he should be able to provide a CarFax report.

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Just for laughs I contacted the seller of this car -- and asked him to explain all the inconsistencies between condition and mileage

This was his response

>i am a dealer and can prove the miles. odometer is original,the vehicle has been owned by our dealerships attorney.

Hmmm I would stay far away from a dealership that say's they have a attorney on the staff. That attorney must be good if there running to the court house in a $2500 ZX