Z33 question....

[Zvoiture]

I was recently presented with an issue I would be interested in hearing some other opin's on. I know the majority of those here are strictly 1st gen fans and another huge chunk (but getting smaller) of you are totally ANTI-Z33, so if you don't have anything constructive to say...just look the other way!

Should G35 coupes be invited/allowed in Z clubs?

steve

[Bambikiller240]

If it ain't a "Nissan" (and an Infinity ain't a Nissan any more than a Nissan is a Renault!), it can't be a "Z". Of course if you just want members, it's your club.

Is a Pontiac Firebird a Chevy Camaro?

Is a Mercury Cougar a Mustang?

Similar isn't the same.

[mar2c]

if you swapped logos on the sides & steering wheel, how would you know ?

besides...do you think our 280s would be welcomed at an Infinity meeting ?

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by mar2c

if you swapped logos on the sides & steering wheel, how would you know ?

Take a can opener to one (like what was done to the car in your avatar) and you might find some differences.

If you want to call the club a "Z Club" ya can't invite cars that aren't "Z's" into it. It should be EXCLUSIVELY for Z's

A Name is a Name is a Name.

If you want it to be a "Car Club" then invite any Porsche, Yugo, Fiat, Hyundai, Subaru, Volvo, etc to join; just don't call it a "Z Club", cause it ain't!

[Mr Camouflage]

Drop a corvette engine into you're 240z and see if you can join a vette club with it. Somehow i dont think it will happen.

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by Mr Camouflage

Drop a corvette engine into you're 240z and see if you can join a vette club with it. Somehow i dont think it will happen.

My point exactly!

[stickninja]

except that the G35 is a nissan, not an infiniti... i wouldn't consider infiniti as a separate brand, since the G35 is the Nissan Skyline in Japan. and a mercury cougar is a mustang, and are allowed in mustang clubs (i'm a former mustang owner, and cougars and capris, as well as t-birds, are included with that group). what counts is the mechanical heritage of the car, i.e. if they have the same chassis. that's my opinion anyway.

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by stickninja

the G35 is a nissan, not an infiniti

I dare you to take that statement to an Infinity dealership and tell that to the Sales Manager!

Originally posted by stickninja

and a mercury cougar is a mustang, and are allowed in mustang clubs (i'm a former mustang owner, and cougars and capris, as well as t-birds, are included with that group).

This maybe true in Arkansas, but it isn't in the Mustang clubs that I'm familiar with in California.

Of course some people still believe that Clinton didn't inhale too!

[Victor Laury]

An Infinity is as much a Nissan as a Datsun is. A brand name of a manufacturer. A rose by any other name? In the Datsun era, The Nissan badge was reserved for the upper market cars. Then, suddenly, they were all Nissans. Obviously, GM doesn't want to market Cadillacs as Chevrolets. Nissan needed a new upscale brand name as well. The 350Z and the G35 are just variants of the same car, yes? I don't know. How deep does it go? When does the body shell become a G35 or a 350Z. Even further back, in the basic shell component pressings?

At the last Turfside show in Escondido, The 350Z and G35 were side by side. My car was about 20 feet from them. I heard many a die hard Z FANATIC walk pass and say "I'd chose the G35". I think if the Central Coast Club excludes a G35, the world would not end. And, vise versa.

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by Victor Laury

I think if the Central Coast Club excludes a G35, the world would not end. And, vise versa.

Agreed. But, it will no longer be a "Z Club". It will be a Nissan/Infinity/Renault/Datsun club.

[Mr Camouflage]

So what is an Infini? I've never heard of it. I though from this thread it was a renault? But now is sounds like its a skyline.

If it's just the prestige marketing ploy to raise the status of nissan, by disassociating the car from nissan and creating a new brand name for the car, then yes it's really a nissan. If it was made by nissan in a nissan factory with nissan parts it's a nissan.

In the same way that a lexus is a toyota, and a eunos is a mazda (MX-5 = miata, mx3 = eunos 30X)

[Bambikiller240]

Infinity is to Nissan, what Lexus is to Toyota.

IMO a marketing ploy for them to squeeze cash out of people who like to *think* thay aren't buying a Nissan or Toyota.

I guess I was the one to toss around the "Renault" name, and I did so as a dig at the owners of Nissan who I feel have sold the soul of the company.

The G35 still isn't a Z!!!