Has anyone here ever installed the Turbo exhaust sys. from MSA? Was it difficult to do it yourself? Did you need any other parts that wasn't mentioned in the desription in MSA's catalog?

I can't speak of that system but,I have learned through the years exhaust is better left to the pro's with the correct tools.The old rust frozen bolts,rust in your eyes,and the fact I don't crawl on my belly like a reptile as well as I used too.The man with the correct tools will be half way done before you can get the jack stands in place.One more tip I have learned the hard way.Have the muffler clamps installed upsidedown from normal like this--U-.That way in the future when you do have to crawl under your car they don't hurt you. Daniel

I've used a couple of them, and they are fairly simple. Are you using one with a header or the stock manifold? You might need to do a little welding if you are going to use a header at the headpipe/header flange connection. But that is not that difficult.

One thing I would suggest is using the stainless steel band clamps if you have the car lowered to give you as much clearance as possible. They are expensive when compared to the "old style" U-bolt clamps, but they do not crimp the pipes and that in itself will make it so much easier if you ever have to remove the exhaust without tearing it up to change a muffler etc...Plus, they offer the benefit of being so thin and won't hang up on a lift or whatever. I've had a 2 1/2 inch pipe clamp catch an alignment rack ramp and yank the whole exhaust loose...:stupid:

Take your time and don't fully tighten the clamps until you have the entire exhaust system where you want it. Wait until you have the exhaust exactly where you want it before you tighten the clamps for the final time, just leave them a bit loose so you can move exhaust by twisting the pipes until you get a good fit.

Thanks....I think I'm going with the stock replacement on w/o the headers. Other Z owners say I might as well get the headers too but I really won't be driver this car that often. Thanks fellas....

Then I would like to continue this thread with a question of my own. I'm trying to install the Energy Suspension Polyurethane master kit into my '73 240Z, but I don't know how to take the exhaust off. I don't want to remove the header and pull it out as one unit, but it's so crimped that I can't section it off. I'm also afraid of tearing it up when I muscle it because it's pretty rusty.

well, headers are no different than the rest of the exhaust, they rust from the inside out, and have to be replaced just like the rest of the exhaust eventually.

It may require thought regarding a new header,

good luck,

dog