Posted March 7, 201411 yr comment_442870 I took some photo's of my EFI manifold with the ground wire connecting to the frame for a fellow member. This is the only ground I could find. The EFI harness doesn't have any grounds and seems to rely on this wire for grounding. I think mine is still the original ground wire. Chas Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr comment_442873 Chas The EFI harness does too have a ground. It runs one thick wire right over to the battery negative terminal. That's about as ground as it gets in an automotive application! The ground you highlighted above is part of the engine bay wiring harness, and I've done a little poking around with it as well. You want to see something interesting? Disconnect both ends of that wire and then check the resistance to ground with them disconnected. Still makes connection, right? There must be internal splices inside the engine bay wiring harness that are back feeding through other directions. Same with the other ground connection on the other side of the engine. One end at the alternator, and another on the bulkhead wall near where the heater tubes poke through the firewall. Disconnect all four of those at the same time, and they STILL read to ground. I didn't dig any further than that, but I found it interesting. Don't forget that the whole drivetrain is connected right to the battery negative terminal through the starter cable too. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr Author comment_442880 You are right Captain. I was half replying to a PM, but I couldn't send photo's via the PM system. What I meant was there is no ground to the manifold/engine in the EFI harness. The EFI system doesn't need it because the sensors all go back to the ECU and the ECU has a direct link to the battery running along the firewall just under the the bonnect.Ifollowed the ground in the wiring diagragm. It seems to splaice off, but its hard to locate it in the car itself.ChasPS: Ill have a dig for the o-ring for the fuel pump and post back the size. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr comment_442881 That's the way I am wiring my megasquirt ECU now. The (FI)sensors all use the same ground wire(reference) and are tied together at the ECU--which in turn is grounded to the engine block. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr comment_442882 Chas, thanks for posting that for me. I knew there was supposed to be a ground there but mine is missing! Don't know why but it is completely gone! I will make one. I started looking at everything after I found that my fuel pump was wired outside of the fuel pump circuit and this is one of the things I found....no ground from engine to chassis. Is it a big deal or not? Not sure but if Nissan had one in place I'm going to make sure it is there now. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr comment_442883 Out of curiosity what is the yellow wire for with the red crimp connector? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr Author comment_442886 Out of curiosity what is the yellow wire for with the red crimp connector?If you follow it in the photo IMG_0074 it goes under the High-Tension leads behind the dizzy to the temperature guage sensor.The PO has been playing with mine too. I don't know why he cut it and rejoined it or maybe the wiring at the sensor was damaged and he replaced it all the way back to there. He also replaced the injector conectors and done a rough job connecting the wiring back together. Im slowing restoring all the front wiring loom. A lot of the wiring around the inlet manifold is hard and brittle where it goes into the terminals.Chas Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr Author comment_442888 Bob, I have a AFM with type: A31-625-000. Its a JECS. Most of the AFM's for the 280Z have A11-600-000. The ZX can have A11-618-427, A11-639-800 and no doubt more changes over the years. The 3 Auto trans 280ZX's I have seen have A11-604-420 The turbo model uses the A18-000-040. Were does my A31 fit in all that???? Beats me. The photo's are made on a smart phone a couple of years back and not all that clear because of the poor lighting. Chas Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr comment_442891 Looks like it may be a remand AFM. I thought it to be a little different looking than mine. The black cover reminds me of a ZX AFM cover. I noticed it in pic 4 of post #1. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr comment_442893 With PO's hacking into this, that, and the other on our cars you and I may be able to help each other out because we have the same car with production date 05/77 and our vin's are very close. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr comment_442894 Per grounds... Yes, the wiring harness has splices in it. I have one completely unwrapped and I have been using it for HellFire Testing. Let me know if someone wants me to trace down a wire for them. I have hacked on it some & I'm not 100% what year it was from.Within the next month, I'll need to disassemble and document better in gear up for the replacement harnesses I'll be offering so I'll have more information & a far better understanding of where the wires "physically" route at that time. @ChasI think all the NA AFMs from Z's and Zxs were calibrated the same from the factory. (there was differences in the fuel pump switch contacts and such of course, but the airflow vs voltage out is the same). The Turbo versions I *believe* have a different spring rate vs voltage output to accommodate the greater airflow. I'm just now beginning to test/understand these dynamics & I'm working from questionable starting points as to which AFMs have which calibrated numbers so if anyone has some more information on that, I would like to learn what you know.I only have three AFMs in my possesion to test/compare to each other. If anyone has any extra ones lying about, I would like to beg/borrow/steal/buy for my testing. I don't care what the condition and a good sampling of units that people think are dead or are known to be flaky would be helpful to me. PM me. - thanks.Len Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 7, 201411 yr comment_442898 Len,I think I have one from a 83 NA if you want to borrow. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48710-280z-efi-inlet-manifold-ground-wire/#findComment-442898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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