Posted March 25, 201410 yr comment_444149 I've never used these but I wanted to pick some up for Z restorations. A floor-pan or quarter-panel would probably be the biggest item to secure.... one at a time....maybe even a few to secure thicker ZG flares too as well as frame rail and rear valence. What selection of cleco's and tools would someone with experience recommend from this site to do the above? Clecos, Cleco Fasteners, Cleco Pliers for Sheet Metal, MRO Tools , Nova® Pneumatic Drills, Carbide Cutting Tools Any suggestion of cleco tools? I am guessing the manual plier-like tool is fine. What is the typical spacing when securing a panel? Thanks! Here are some pics I found. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48851-cleco-fastener-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 26, 201410 yr comment_444161 They certainly look handy to hold the metal in place for welding. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48851-cleco-fastener-questions/#findComment-444161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 26, 201410 yr comment_444194 Those pics look familiar Philip, I would get the heavy duty PHD series. Some of the stubbies for hard to reach areas and i wish I had some of the PSG clamps-those are neat. Depending on how much sheet metal you are tackling at a time would determine how many. If you noticed I used more in the curved areas of the floor panel. Probably need 20 for one floor panel. I used 1/8" diameter for the lighter stuff and 3/16" for heavy stuff. The 3/16" was more then enough strong for holding floors and big panels. You could probably just get away with all 1/8" actually. A pair of hand pliers is all you should need. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48851-cleco-fastener-questions/#findComment-444194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 26, 201410 yr Author comment_444198 Thanks Steve! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48851-cleco-fastener-questions/#findComment-444198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 26, 201410 yr comment_444206 There are many former aircraft workers (Wichita KS) that were / are hot rodders that have used them for decades around here. Some were aquired by employing the 'lunch box' method. They are a very helpful tool that will make your job a lot easier and the work look much better. Bonzi Lon Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48851-cleco-fastener-questions/#findComment-444206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 26, 201410 yr comment_444221 Unless you're doing a LOT of sheet metal work, the cost isn't justified. Just use self tapping sheet metal screws. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48851-cleco-fastener-questions/#findComment-444221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 26, 201410 yr comment_444223 I have to disagree with you John. These are CHEAP for such a valuable tool.50$ will save you tons of work . I bet I had my floor out 10 times fitting everything. You can hold a cleco in the pliers with one hand while you hold the panel up. Try that with screws and a cordless drill. I can have the panel out in seconds. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48851-cleco-fastener-questions/#findComment-444223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 26, 201410 yr comment_444224 "Lunch box method" - love it! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/48851-cleco-fastener-questions/#findComment-444224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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