kats Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Hi, In Japan,a very interesting book was issued for all the S30 fans recently. Mr.Uemura was an engineer of Nissan ,he did great job especially chassis and compornets layout , not only that, he also was a chief of the test crew of 240Z in the US and Canada Oct -Dec 1969. So many new fucts we see in the book!! I have to tell you soon. Kats Edited July 5, 2014 by kats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted July 4, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 4, 2014 I have to respond just so I don't miss updates to this thread. Thanks, Kats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Sigarto Posted July 4, 2014 Share #3 Posted July 4, 2014 Me also Kats, thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kats Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the interests,To begin with,see this menue for the prototypes.Jul 1967 chassis test car /5cars with temporaly exterior No chassis # #1 heat prove/noise & vibration/high speed Durability#2 suspention/rough road#3 elgonomics/brake system/noise & vibration/performance#4 stress/noise & vibration/rough road#5 DurabilityNov 1967 1st group of prototype / 11 cars No chassis # #1 L24A LHD Belgium road test#2 L16A LHD rough road test#3 G8B LHD 180hp Solex performance test (G8B means S20)#4 L24A LHD performance test#5 L24A LHD for Nissan Shatai#6 L20A RHD automatic transmission/high speed test#7 L20A RHD 160hp Solex daily driver ability test#8 G8B RHD 160hp Solex Belgium road test#9 L24A LHD noise & vibration test/replaced to L16A later#10 L24A LHD hot weather test#11 G8B RHD 230hp Weber rough road Durability testSorry for my poor interprit, they may not be correct in some of them.I did not know 4 cylinder L16A was considered and tested for the Z! I thought 4 cylinder idea was only for exterior design sturdy.Also S20 for LHD!L engine with Solex was L20A 160hp,not L24A.Very interesting!Kats Edited July 5, 2014 by kats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Beck Posted July 5, 2014 Share #5 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) Hi Kats: Thanks for sharing the new information you have found. Very interesting - now we might have a better idea of what cars we are seeing in some of the Crash Safety Tests as well. I did not know 4 cylinder L16A was considered and tested for the Z! I thought 4 cylinder idea was only for exterior design sturdy. I believe it was you that Posted the following Image here some time ago. Do you know yet - how to order a copy of the book on line? thanks, Carl B. Edited July 5, 2014 by Carl Beck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS30-H Posted July 5, 2014 Share #6 Posted July 5, 2014 Hi Kats:Thanks for sharing the new information you have found. Very interesting - now we might have a better idea of what cars we are seeing in some of the Crash Safety Tests as well. I believe it was you that Posted the following Image here some time ago. Do you know yet - how to order a copy of the book on line? thanks, Carl B. Carl, If you think the 'Fairlady Z 160' emblems were a reference to the L16 then you are already barking up the wrong tree. As was noted in the source of the original photo, the '160' referred to the 160PS rating of the S20 (G8B) twin cam engine. I very much doubt that any emblems were produced for the (single...) L16-engined prototype, as it was soon dropped. Kats, GREAT stuff from Uemura san! Thank you. Remember we talked some time ago about the rumours of an early prototype being tested in mainland Europe? Seems it was true... I think we know what happened to the LHD S20-engined car, don't we...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kats Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Hi Carl,I think the book is a Japanese magazine issued early 1970,I will check it when I am home .Mr.Uemura told 'We also had 19 moch-ups, to follow up those tests of 11 complete test cars'They were12 crash test2 seatbelt & mounting stress test2 body stress & vibration test2 engine room moch-up1 wiper test cut bodyIs this model available in the US??????????????????????Z? | ?????? Eaglemoss LtdI will pay aprox.150000 JPY when I complete !!And will take 2 years to finish.The most valuable thing of this model and you will be pleased is, a DVD of an old film making Fairlady-Z. I am not happy with the model ,I expected much more high quality in this price range. However I have the DVD!! This is awsome.It is not co-oparation of Mr.Uemura & Eagle Moss,but after reading the book I noticed there are lots of test cars discribed in the book are seen in this DVD.Running test cars have different C piller, different tail lights, different interior trim & color e.t.c. So the design team were still working hard at that time.Kats Edited July 7, 2014 by kats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kats Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted July 7, 2014 Hi Alan! Yes of cource I remember you let me see the picture of the LHD S20 car,that car is proved of its existance by this book! About Belgium road,Mr.Uemura told it was a simulated road in Oppama factory. The factory lmported blicks from Belgium where the road replaced to modern then blicks were not needed. The test road was extreamly tough for test cars, body and axle & suspention. Like 510 ,Cedric, they set a target 4000Km running test, but for S30 was 2000Km because the car was not considered as a TAXI. Kats Carl,If you think the 'Fairlady Z 160' emblems were a reference to the L16 then you are already barking up the wrong tree. As was noted in the source of the original photo, the '160' referred to the 160PS rating of the S20 (G8B) twin cam engine. I very much doubt that any emblems were produced for the (single...) L16-engined prototype, as it was soon dropped. Kats, GREAT stuff from Uemura san! Thank you. Remember we talked some time ago about the rumours of an early prototype being tested in mainland Europe? Seems it was true... I think we know what happened to the LHD S20-engined car, don't we...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs10shl Posted July 7, 2014 Share #9 Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Kats, This is great news. Just the kind of book that needs to be translated into English- something with some real stories and facts. Anyone in the group have any thoughts about how to help make that happen? I'd be happy to make some phone calls to some publishers, under my pseudonym - "Al Goertzovich". Or better "Nicht Goertzovich". Edited July 7, 2014 by xs10shl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kats Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted July 7, 2014 Kats, This is great news. Just the kind of book that needs to be translated into English- something with some real stories and facts. Anyone in the group have any thoughts about how to help make that happen? I'd be happy to make some phone calls to some publishers, under my pseudonym - "Al Goertzovich". Or better "Nicht Goertzovich".Hi xs10shl,That is what I want to say.This book is must be spreadall over the world. I am for sure the book is deserved it .And xs10shl, can I see you on Sunday 9th or 10th ? I will send PM soon .Kats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS30-H Posted July 7, 2014 Share #11 Posted July 7, 2014 About Belgium road,Mr.Uemura told it was a simulated road in Oppama factory.The factory lmported blicks from Belgium where the road replaced to modern then blicks were not needed. The test road was extreamly tough for test cars, body and axle & suspention. It's OK Kats, I was only joking about European mainland testing - although we know that did come later, and that a rally test car was certainly in the south of France in January 1970. Of course, Belgian 'pavé' surface was always one of the auto industry testing standards. Many test courses include a pavé section. It's very harsh to drive on, and hurts the driver just as much as the car. I had to take a short cut across a section of pavé at the Longcross test course here in the UK (it was for a magazine photo shoot) and immediately my interior mirror fell off...! Here's a clip from the film you mentioned, showing one of the disguised test cars on that Belgian pavé surface at Oppama: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kats Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Alan,I am very interested in the early Europe test too,we keep our passion to finding the more details and stories, my next plan is having an interview withMr.Takei as a chief crew of the Europe 240Z development team.Alan, posting crips from the DVD is very helpful,everyone can see the interesting details.Here is a question for all of you, What is a true reason for the size and shape of the floor tunnel ?A: To install a BorgWaner auto transmission.B: To maximize ability of installation on a production assembly lineC: To install a Nissan President V8 engine What is your answer?Kats Edited July 8, 2014 by kats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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