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Hi Blue,

Its beautiful but looks so painful to a car and driver.

Kats

Hi Kats:

OK - - - Mr. Matsuo wrote in his part of the Farilady Z Story - that the original design based on a 4 cylinder / roadster chassis - had to be made wider to fit an A/T in - - -However there is a lot of extra room left there, compared to most production cars. So with the hint of "size and shape" and knowing that Mr. Matsuo wanted to see the Z get a V8 at some future point… I'll have to go with "C" leaving room for the Nissan V8. Whatever the answer - it left a lot of room for SBC's.

Carl B.

Kats, that is the famous cobbled Paris-Roubaix road that is used to destroy cyclists I was impressed to see Nissan using similar to test. ?????? - Wikipedia

Edited July 8, 201410 yr by Blue

Hi,

In Japan,a very interesting book was issued for all the S30 fans recently.

Mr.Uemura was an engineer of Nissan ,he did great job especially chassis and compornets layout , not only that, he also was a chief of the test crew of 240Z in the US and Canada Oct -Dec 1969.

So many new fucts we see in the book!! I have to tell you soon.

Kats

Kats, Can you bring that book with you to ZCON; I am sure many would be interested in seeing it.

Regards, David

Hi Carl,

Thanks for joyining,

Mr.Uemura said there were 3 types of transmission going to be fitted,

FS5C71A, F4W71A, and BW35(BorgWaner made).

Development team thought Automatic transmission was must item for the users in the US.

He said BW35 was an only choice for the automatic transmission at that time,

it was a very big so the tunnel was enlarged.However it was not installed ,Nissan

chose much more compact JATCO 3N71A and waited until it became ready for install on an assembly line.

Mr.Uemura said in the book 'this car does not need such a big tunnel...'

JATCO was an originaly Nissan's Yoshiwara factory.

So the answer is A ,

but Mr.Uemura said 'We very much expected and prepared for an order of installation Y40 (President V8 4000cc) from the US maket ,but no order'

He said if it became real it could be a good easy-drive car with big torqe despite less efficient procedure on an assembly line.L20/24 were installed from the underneath , but Y40 needed to be installed from the top due to its width of engine.

Mr.Uemura said 'BW35 was used for President and Cedric '

So my guess is the team would think and prepared 'for the S30 ,BW35 for Y40 engine'.

No test cars of this Y40, too bad.

Answer C could also be correct I think.

Kats

Hi Kats:

OK - - - Mr. Matsuo wrote in his part of the Farilady Z Story - that the original design based on a 4 cylinder / roadster chassis - had to be made wider to fit an A/T in - - -However there is a lot of extra room left there, compared to most production cars. So with the hint of "size and shape" and knowing that Mr. Matsuo wanted to see the Z get a V8 at some future point… I'll have to go with "C" leaving room for the Nissan V8. Whatever the answer - it left a lot of room for SBC's.

Carl B.

Edited July 10, 201410 yr by kats

Hi Blue,Montezuma

It is Paris! very beautiful.

I bring this book to ZCON 2014!

Kats

Hi Kats:

Very interesting information, thanks for bringing it to us. "JATCO" Japan Automatic Transmission Company - was a joint venture with the Ford Motor Company. The A/T's were just smaller copies of Ford's A/T at the time. (Ford was a major investor in Madza at the time as I recall}

There were no orders for the V8 from the US - in part because of the Fuel Shortages here in the US, caused by the "oil embargo" and the ever tightening EPA emissions standards. The fuel shortage brought with it the National 55mph Speed Limit. However even after the fuel shortage had passed - I guess people here valued clean air and water, more than they valued performance. So the US Emissions standards continued to get ever more strict. It took the auto manufacturers more than a couple decades to figure out how to have both low emissions and performance - all with better fuel economy.

FWIW,

Carl

On July 6, 2014 at 9:34 PM, xs10shl said:

Kats,

This is great news. Just the kind of book that needs to be translated into English- something with some real stories and facts. Anyone in the group have any thoughts about how to help make that happen?

I'd be happy to make some phone calls to some publishers, under my pseudonym - "Al Goertzovich". Or better "Nicht Goertzovich".

Hi Gang:

I am very happy to tell everyone that you can now order an English Language Edition of Mr. Uemura’s book. Titled;  “DATSUN 240Z Engineering Development”, by Hitoshi Uemura.  It is available to you only on Lulu.com (linked below).

 

Many thanks to Mr. Uemura and his friend Mr. Yuichiro Motomura for making this available to us. Mr. Motomura provided the English language translation along with digital copies of all pictures, figures and charts making the publication possible.

 

I hope you will all order several copies, for yourself and to share with your fellow Z Car Enthusiast. We need to make this a "Best Seller" with the hope that more will follow.

 

https://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?keyWords=Datsun+240Z&type=

 

FWIW,

Carl B.

 

14 hours ago, Carl Beck said:

I am very happy to tell everyone that you can now order an English Language Edition of Mr. Uemura’s book. Titled;  “DATSUN 240Z Engineering Development”, by Hitoshi Uemura.  It is available to you only on Lulu.com (linked below).

Carl, can I ask who chose the title of the Lulu.com-published translation? Was it Uemura san himself, or was it (ironically) prompted by a change in target market?

The original book - published by Tokyo Tosho Shuppan in June 2014 - was titled 'Fairlady Z Kaihatsu No Kiroku' (roughly translating as 'Fairlady Z Development Record') and also covers some of Uemura san's work on the S130-series.

Also, the original book was a hardback with 230 pages. I notice the Lulu.com-published version is much shorter at 114 pages. Is that because of a change in format/sizing, or is this an abridged version with some original content not included for some reason?

Thanks,

Alan T.

I too am interested in why the English version may be shorter? I certainly hope some home market car details were not omitted? That would be a shame.

I'm also curious about this S20 powered LHD S30Z chassis.

Alan are you willing to share photos of this car? Does it still exist?

Good!  I'm glad to see activity on this thread.  Have you bought the book and read it yet?  I have, and I'm really anxious to discuss this.  I don't have the Japanese publication but it wouldn't do me much good other than comparing the pictures.  If you haven't purchased your copy, I encourage you.  If you enjoy the topic of how the Maru Z project became the S30, in North America the Datsun 240Z Sports, as much as I do then buy this book.  This book really explains many of the pictures, DVDs and discussions we have had in the past.

Thanks and recognition should be given to Carl, Art Singer, Yuichiro Motomura and DocUmeant Designs for the publication.

Kats, do you think the S20 powered LHD car was "First Stage Prototype Car #3" described in the book?