I'm really happy to see this thread go in this direction. The comments have been wonderful. I share your opinions of the Vintage Zs, they are close to me, as Alan pointed out. Thanks Alan. When I linked the threads from the archives, I read them, allowing my thoughts to wonder back to those times. Yes, we finally got the F-word sorted out!

Personally, I look to the Vintage Zs as a standard for restoration. High or low standard is irrelevant; just a standard. An expectation of results if one approaches a restoration in a certain manner.

So, the auction closed?!!?? Carl? Do you know what happened?

This is a very nice example and I hope it commands a fair price!

I have to say that I am disappointed and not surprised by some of the negative comments. There is significant amount of nitpicking of faults and pointing out of “non-original” aspects of this automobile.

Having been a member of this forum for over a dozen years, sadly little has changed. There seems to be a prevailing tendency to over-criticize a vehicle and swiftly pass judgment. This type of attitude is the reason that I rarely visit this site, and have kept my over three decades and half a dozen 240Zs of experience to myself. I use to post often in the beginning, but seen this site really go downhill over the years.

Perhaps this pointing out of faults is some type of therapy and display of passive aggressiveness to make one feel better about their inferior vehicle to the one to posted on the forum for public scrutiny.

Take a moment to step back and enjoy to vehicle for what it is. Sure it is not a Uber Grand Master Gold Medallion winner or whatever. Nonetheless, it is a fine car and its sale will help increase respect to the cars make well all hold so dear.

Rant over!

I also share the above lines, and add IMO , these cars can not be compare/judge like a FERRARI or JAG , they are not in that league .

. . . these cars can not be compare/judge like a FERRARI or JAG , they are not in that league

. . . yet, . I'd add that having owned both Ferrari and Jag marques, I feel there are plenty of pedestrian and simply "not-good" models in both marques, but even those are generally held in higher regard than they objectively deserve, based solely on their sharing a badge with other, truly superb models.

The VZ is gone from EBay due to the fact that it was sold. Actually I thought about "throwing my hat into the ring" for a period of time yesterday but backed off when I knew a Z friend of mine was working out an off-EBay deal with the seller. Congrats to my friend and although I don't know the exact selling price I do know it was over $40K.

Thanks for the back-handed compliment, but I'd like to see you mention Mike Brame in this context. We don't see him around on this forum all that much lately, but his contributions on such topics are in the archives and are a valuable reference.

And Chris Wenzel wrote THE definitive document on the VZ Program cars, as far as I'm concerned. I've even given a copy to a VZ Program car owner who lives in Japan.

Looks like we finally got the "Factory" thing sorted out, didn't we....?

Thanks for mentioning Mike Brame, Alan. An oversight that should really include a number of others who have contributed mightily

to our discussions of the unadulterated Z.

And Alan, from someone who appreciates your contributions to my Zeducation, the backhanded compliment, I hope, puts a smile

on your face, and on the faces of all those who have debated with you on this forum.

His initials wouldn't be RJ would it? Just what you need Jeff.....another frickin' Datsun!!!

Edited August 28, 201410 yr by Diseazd

So, the auction closed?!!?? Carl? Do you know what happened?

No. The seller contacted me a couple weeks ago. He said the owner wanted to get it on the Vintage Z Register as it was going to be sold. I ask him to send me the necessary info - VIN/Engine Serial Number/color/location/owner name etc. Plus some pictures.

I ask him if they had set a price - and he replied that they had not yet decided on number, but that the owner was in no real hurry to sell it. He sent pictures of the car etc.

Next thing I know - it's on EBay. I do know three or four collectors that were interested - but no one seems to bid until the last few minutes. Then bang it is removed from EBay and sold.

In my opinion if they took anything less than $60K - they should have let the auction run.

FWIW,

Carl

I heard it sold for $40,000.00......from a good source.

Then it was not Sold - it was stolen!! I suppose we well see it back on Bay with a BIN of $78K. Or auctioned at next year's Amelia…

Carl

I agree that these "marketing produced 240Zs" are special all in themselves and IMHO they should be left as-is with all the little quirks they came with.

And while some may want car # 13, I want cars # 6, 8 & 14 (in the state of condition they are right now and not as they came from the "Factory").

Then it was not Sold - it was stolen!! I suppose we well see it back on Bay with a BIN of $78K. Or auctioned at next year's Amelia…

Carl

Amelia , not too fond of the Datsun marque , here the only one on that lawn auction block back in 07 //// 1967 Datsun 1600/2000 Roadster | Vintage Motor Cars at Amelia Island 2007 | RM AUCTIONS

Edited August 28, 201410 yr by Z fan

Given the sudden interest in Japanese cars, I have a feeling we'll see a Nissan or Datsun in some form or another at Amelia.

Edited August 29, 201410 yr by xs10shl