what is this???

[sjcurtis]

I have always wondered what the information means on this sticker. Do you Know!!!

Please if you can shed any light on the meaning of this information please reply. this sticker is in the engine bay, on the right hand strut tower above the manufacturers data plate.

Cheers

Steve:classic:

[24OZ]

I have the same sticker, though I havent checked to see if the numbers are identical.

I have been told that the E code number is a sort of seal of approval and the number 2 next to it means that its approved for the UK???

Others have said that the E specifically stands for Europe making the E code system just for European models.. again????

I havent been able to establish what is really true about this but just take it thats its some sort of approval code.

By the way are you from England?

[Bpaccaud]

i think it's mean effectively Europe, and number 2, i don't know but you can find the same symbole on the headlights, and it means that the light is europe approuved

[sjcurtis]

Thanks for the input.

That is an interesting theory about manufactured to a European entry standard, similar to all the mass production electronic equipment from China with the symbol CE some say that is a Europe entry code but others say China Electric Hmmm.

I have seen the marker on headlight with the E symbol and that is a standard light in Australia as well.

My car is an export model HS30 240Z with a 6/73 Australian compliance plate fitted. Only vehicles that conform to the Austalian Design Rule Codes have this plate attached, normally cars are assembled at the factory to meet the standard here in Australia. So there must be a lot in common with cars sent o Europe.

When I bought my Zed I removed the bumper bar indicators lamps, then fitted dual fillement bulbs to my under bumper bar parker light to activate the indicator function in that lamp, like the earlier Australian delivery Zeds. I new I was on a winner when the indicators would not work, the right number of wires were coming out of the lamp but the car side loom plugs was one wire short in the loom. Both power wires where turned back and stowed under insulation tape( factory style and age). I fitted the wires to the blank positions and the indicators worked. I would say "240Z" if you look at Your forward wiring loom you will find matching plugs below the bumper bar with the wire missing.

It would be good if someone could unravel the code and confirm

the intent of this sticker.

Cheers

Steve

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[24OZ]

Steve,

You are correct, thats exactly how my wiring loom looks like.

George.

[sjcurtis]

That is interesting George, who would have thought. I wonder what else is the same. We are obviously running very similar setups (L28E). I wonder if these Zed,s are from the same production batch. Did you check that code on the sticker yet.

Can anyone else add to the information behind the codes of engine bay sticker.

Cheers

Steve:classic:

[HS30-H]

Hi Steve, George and Ben P,

As far as I am told, that E mark sticker on the later European cars is related specifically to European standards of emissions control. The earlier UK cars did not have it, and I must say I did not know

until now that some of the Australian market cars had it.

I think I might dig into this a little deeper and see if I can get the SMMT ( Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders ) here in the UK to look at their records for these regulations and see what they can come up with. It might take a while ( they can be dinosaur slow ) but it will be worth putting it to rest once and for all.

I guess we could chalk this up as more evidence of Nissan's slightly confusing policy with regard to the right hookers; it seems that there are many things that do not add up to common sense! I have no information on Australian regulations with regard to lighting and emissions, but I would NOT have thought that they fell in line with European laws! I suppose that Nissan may have got near to making a standardised spec. for the "Export" HS30 models towards the '72 / '73 period, and that this enabled them to divert cars to the market that they were needed in. In the case of the Export HS30 cars, this would I am told be AFTER they were made and had been sitting in Yokohama for a few weeks. In that case, it would make sense for them to have put the E stickers and other stuff on them regardless of whether they were eventually destined for Europe ( UK ) or Australia / NZ.

The Japanese-market cars did not have any of the E markings on them.

With regard to those "taped off" wires, I think I can confirm that ALL the UK-market HS30 cars had this phenomenon ( with the exception of the first two officially imported cars and a few strays ). This was because the front indicator lamps were found not to comply with UK Type Approval regulations ( too low ), and a hasty re-design was made necessary. This in fact delayed the delivery of the first batch of UK-market cars ( I think the first batch was diverted to Australia because of this? ) and the re-design included a whole new version of the front quarter valances without any cut-out for the indicators / side lights. UK-market cars were forced to sport rather ugly little front indicator pods on the top of the front bumper ( I believe that they were sourced from a Sunny model ). However, their re-design did not go to the extent of a full new loom section - and they simply taped off the unused wires. This has befuddled many a UK-market Z owner down the years, with quizzical looks and scratched heads as to the purpose of the taped off wires............

I'll let you know how I get on with the SMMT on those E marks.

All the best,

Alan T.

[sjcurtis]

Thanks for the input Alan.

Yes it does seem feasible that this sticker with the E codes is a compliance notification by NISSAN for the late HS30 production runs.

It will be interesting to see if the SMMT investigation can solve the riddle of the codes.

To NISSAN finally getting a single spec HS 30 Zed together for export, I agree If you look into the peripherals for the different market HS30 vehicle deviations would be low in number. I would say the addition of the parker light below the front bar was the only deviation, oh and the two support panels for the lamps. As far as I know no Australian delivered HS30 Zeds had the parking bulb in the head light standard they all carried this function below the front bar in the parker light. As for the above bumper Indicator lamp I think it was standard here on 73 model. As for the pollution Regs in Australia, that is a can of worms but basically anything here with a HS30 prefix had to have a muffler an air filter and minor gas re-circulation only and all run on Super petrol.

In 1974 the smog rules started to come in here but they only went initially to carbon canisters then on to exhaust gas re-circulation later with low lead fuel being optional, full fuel madness (legislated consumption of unleaded) came here in 1/1/1986. and the rates of leukaemia have been climbing ever since ( I have now fallen off my soap box). I apologise for expressing that view as some may find them offensive. The bottom line is we could probably say that Australian legislation on vehicles was selected (cut and paste) from different DMV's around the world ( not always the best).

As to Type approval I find it interesting that two Zeds were on the road in the UK before type approval was ratified, And why did NISSAN not seek concession if these two cars were on the road, maybe the volume was way to low.

The type approval here appears to have been firmly in place by early 1970 and the volume was climbing. We had no major consession changes until the end of HS30 production.

Food for thought

Steve:classic: :classic:

[24OZ]

Steve,

I had a look at the numbers on the sticker and they are identical.

Funny that...

[Zedrally]

Originally posted by sjcurtis

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My car is an export model HS30 240Z with a 6/73 Australian compliance plate fitted. Only vehicles that conform to the Austalian Design Rule Codes have this plate attached,

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When I bought my Zed I removed the bumper bar indicators lamps, then fitted dual fillement bulbs to my under bumper bar parker light to activate the indicator function in that lamp, like the earlier Australian delivery Zeds.

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I'll chime in here.

Couple of questions,

1. When did the ADR's require 240 to have the bumber bar indicators fitted?

[i was under the impression that these vehicles where the UK imports that where diverted here]?

2. Why wasn't this required on 260z's?

[None of these have the bumper light]

Oh yes, I'm anticipating the argument that the lenses changed from all white to half white/orange in the 260, but it doesn't explain why they didn't do this in the 240? [After all it would have been a cheaper option]!

Cheers

MN

[sjcurtis]

240z,

That is excellent, do you have any idea of the production date.

Zedrally,

to the ADR governing indicators. The change in the 73 production to include the bumper indicators on the export HS30 was not an affect of the ADR requirement, definitely a Europe driven change. This is the same ADR as the HQ Holden indicator.

1974 brought the amber indicator requirement to the ADR. The HQ Holden changed over to amber in 73.

To them being UK imports diverted to Australia I thought that was 70/71 production, hence the higher sales figures, maybe but I have not got any of those cold weather mods or funny switches. I would say the only difference from the ADR 72 was the front indicators, the inlet manifold and no front bumper overriders.

By the time the 260z came along cost and ADR's would have driven the change two the dual bulb under bar indicator/parker, but I have no idea about the Europe delivered vehicle

cheers

Steve:classic: :classic:

[Ben]

Just to throw another spanner in the works, I believe that the taped off wires in the front harness are the fog lamp wiring, not indicator wiring....

1974 also saw the introduction of side markers (or the equivalent) in the ADR's too.