Posted December 15, 201410 yr comment_460341 Hey guys I just pulled the front diff of a nissan 720 4x4. I wanted the 4.11 but ended up with the 4.38 which is fine. I'm a little confused because when I pulled the speedo gear it was yellow. From my understanding it should be purple. Any ideas?? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50601-i-just-pulled-a-438-diff/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 15, 201410 yr comment_460343 Don't forget tire size. Â With a bigger tire the diff will spin slower. Â A big tire and a 4.38 might spin the propeller shaft at the same speed as a small tire and a 3.36. Â Yellow is way down at the other end though. Â Count the teeth to be sure what you have. Maybe it's old white. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50601-i-just-pulled-a-438-diff/#findComment-460343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 15, 201410 yr Author comment_460351 It's a 19 tooth speedo gear. I pulled it off the transfer case. Maybe because it's 4x4 and anticipated big tires is why nissan put that there. Looks like I need to find a 21 tooth somewhere. I'm a little worried with how low the diff is geared. I wanted the 4.11 but when I finally got it out and saw it was a 4.38 I decided to keep it since it was so clean inside. What are your thoughtz? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50601-i-just-pulled-a-438-diff/#findComment-460351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 15, 201410 yr comment_460352 I can't find the man reference usually used but the one I found says that 19 tooth is the white gear for a 3.9.  A lot closer to a 4.38 than a yellow, for a Z.  510's and Z's both use the same size tire, I believe http://community.ratsun.net/topic/26704-matching-speedo-gears-after-rear-end-swap/  Post #7  A similar question came up on another forum and someone posted the link below.  It will give you an idea of the difference you'll see between the two.  It really depends on how you intend to use the car.  Nissan designed the systems to allow starting from a stop easily, including hills, and cruise at freeway speeds.  Race cars need to accelerate from corners and go fast on the straights.  Drag cars need to accelerate and top out in a gear as they hit the lights.  Auto-cross: in the powerband with throttle control.  Stuff like that. http://webspace.webring.com/people/cz/z_design_studio/ Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50601-i-just-pulled-a-438-diff/#findComment-460352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 15, 201410 yr Author comment_460368 This setup looks badass. How accurate is this system? With the wheels and tire combo it's setting me up to have a nice drive train with a decent cruising gear 65 mph at 2819 rpms. Still better than the factory 3.36 diff and 4 speed. The red line I have set at 7000 rpms on my ignition controller but usually shift at 6500rpms. It has second gear reaching 60 mpg (mph, shitty android auto correct ( at 6500 rpms. What's cool is where the rpms stay. Shifting from first at 6500 into second drops to 400 0 rims Second to third is 6500 to 4500 rpms Third to fourth is 6500 to 5000 rpms And forth to fifth is 6500 to 4800 rpms. Since my torque is most noticable between 4-5000rpms. It should be a monster. I do notice a power drop after 6500 rpms. But I'm still running a stock manifold embarrassing enough. So that might net a few more ponies up high. What are your guys thought? Oh yah. Background info 82 zx 5 speed 4.375 truck 4x4 diff combo 235 45 17 wheels and tires L28 modified but stock manifold Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50601-i-just-pulled-a-438-diff/#findComment-460368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 15, 201410 yr comment_460376 I will just say that the ZX trans was meant for a 3.90 diff factory with the gearing. You have increased tire size considerably from stock so that offsets your gearing. You probably are closer to 4.11 gearing in the back with those tires. It should make for fun and quick Z. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50601-i-just-pulled-a-438-diff/#findComment-460376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr comment_460399 I have a similar ratio diff (R180 for me) which will get a Quaife installed next month. Your tires are 1.5 inches taller than the 225/50/15 we are required to run in Vintage. What's next is figuring out the right tranny gears to match the track. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50601-i-just-pulled-a-438-diff/#findComment-460399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr Author comment_460403 I have the same wheel and tire combo for vintage as well. How do u like the diff ratio? Are u using a zx transmission? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50601-i-just-pulled-a-438-diff/#findComment-460403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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