Posted December 15, 201410 yr comment_460390 Hello everyone, looking to see where I can purchase the terminals and rubber covers for the fuel sending unit wiring. Mines are as hard as a rock. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 15, 201410 yr comment_460393 Boots - http://zzxdatsun.com/catWiring.php part WH-20 Mike doesn't take credit cards, though. Pay with a check. You'd have to expose the terminals some for me to suggest a source, though. I don't recall what they looked like from messing with them 3+ years ago. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr comment_460398 Lacquer thinner will soften rubber , not sure how long to immerse. Experiment Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr comment_460413 Those "nail head" connectors are hard to find. I opened up spade connectors and covered everything with liquid electrical tape, Shade Tree, but it worked out great. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr comment_460416 Advice from "z'z-on-da-brain" (Dave Irwin) when he refurbished my rear harness----"Apply heat with a hairdryer right before you install the boots on the terminals at the tank". He wrote it on a piece of paper attached to the boots! What a thoughtful guy! I asked Mike at Banzai about using the boots he offers a long time ago and it seems he said they were a different size than the boots at the tank, but that they might work. I've not purchased and used a set to see. I'm sure this is another piece Steve Nixon (nix240z) could (and will) reproduce. Jim D. "Zup" Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr Author comment_460419 Boots - http://zzxdatsun.com/catWiring.php part WH-20 Mike doesn't take credit cards, though. Pay with a check. You'd have to expose the terminals some for me to suggest a source, though. I don't recall what they looked like from messing with them 3+ years ago. Thanks, I actually bought all the fuel tank section grommets from Mike. I emailed him to about the boot. In this website it states the alternator boot, which might be much bigger than this. Lacquer thinner will soften rubber , not sure how long to immerse. Experiment Thanks, i'll try this. Also can I clean the wiring with laquer thinner? I want to unwrap the whole harness and clean each wire. Those "nail head" connectors are hard to find. I opened up spade connectors and covered everything with liquid electrical tape, Shade Tree, but it worked out great. Thanks, that's a pretty good idea. Mine's aren't that bad, but I just want to have a backup just in case. Advice from "z'z-on-da-brain" (Dave Irwin) when he refurbished my rear harness----"Apply heat with a hairdryer right before you install the boots on the terminals at the tank". He wrote it on a piece of paper attached to the boots! What a thoughtful guy! I asked Mike at Banzai about using the boots he offers a long time ago and it seems he said they were a different size than the boots at the tank, but that they might work. I've not purchased and used a set to see. I'm sure this is another piece Steve Nixon (nix240z) could (and will) reproduce. Jim D. "Zup" Thanks, the boots and terminals look to be in good shape, just rock hard . On another note, I am pretty sure I saw this type of connector and rubber cap on another "newer" vehicle, i'll research and see what I find. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr comment_460420 Just use alcohol on a rag to wipe the wires and harness clean. Vinegar may also work nicely. Lacquer thinner is a harsh solvent so only use it to sparingly to revive rubber or full strength to dissolve undercoating. btw it was used in the recording industry to refresh the rubber rollers on tape recorders. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr Author comment_460421 Something like this might work: http://www.repairconnector.com/products/GM-Single-Wire-Coolant-Temperature-Sender-Connector.html It's not original but similar. I'll keep looking. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr comment_460422 For softening old rubber I found this: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865303 "I recently ran into a formula for softening age hardened rubber... couple ounces of wintergreen oil in a pint or so of xylene. I just did some intake boots & they went from rock hard to like new flex in 24 hours. I am astounded at how well it worked. the wintergreen is supposed to have a natural plastisizer in it called meythyl salicylate. the test bits did not swell up noticeably and are still pliable after a couple days sitting on the bench. I put another set in mix yesterday & they show improvement, but not as dramatic as the first set. I intend to leave them in until tomorrow & see if they continue to improve. It's the same mix though, so maybe some fresh materials would speed things up.I got the oil from a local health food store, another source is homeopathic medicine. I hear that sports medicine uses it too." ""With nothing to lose, I immersed them in lacquer thinner and checked them twice a day. The things swell up and you would swear that they are ruined, but they shrink back to normal in a few days. Some guys also use wintergreen available at drug stores and make some sort of brew mixing it with the solvent. I just use the lacquer thinner until the boots soften enough and then soak the boots in the wintergreen for a day. As they start to shrink, the wintergreen sucks in to the rubber. The wintergreen at a cheaper price is also known as Thor Tire Prep #12 and available at kart shops to soften racing tires."" Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr Author comment_460423 For softening old rubber I found this: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865303 "I recently ran into a formula for softening age hardened rubber... couple ounces of wintergreen oil in a pint or so of xylene. I just did some intake boots & they went from rock hard to like new flex in 24 hours. I am astounded at how well it worked. the wintergreen is supposed to have a natural plastisizer in it called meythyl salicylate. the test bits did not swell up noticeably and are still pliable after a couple days sitting on the bench. I put another set in mix yesterday & they show improvement, but not as dramatic as the first set. I intend to leave them in until tomorrow & see if they continue to improve. It's the same mix though, so maybe some fresh materials would speed things up. I got the oil from a local health food store, another source is homeopathic medicine. I hear that sports medicine uses it too." ""With nothing to lose, I immersed them in lacquer thinner and checked them twice a day. The things swell up and you would swear that they are ruined, but they shrink back to normal in a few days. Some guys also use wintergreen available at drug stores and make some sort of brew mixing it with the solvent. I just use the lacquer thinner until the boots soften enough and then soak the boots in the wintergreen for a day. As they start to shrink, the wintergreen sucks in to the rubber. The wintergreen at a cheaper price is also known as Thor Tire Prep #12 and available at kart shops to soften racing tires."" thanks, I destroyed 1 boot trying to get to the terminal... I have no patience. I found the connectors, now I have to find a cover of some sort Some great info from the Jeep forum: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/basic-wiring-101-getting-you-started-1340134/ Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr Author comment_460424 And where to buy: http://www.repairconnector.com/brass-female-lock-type-tab-connector-5-pack/ Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 16, 201410 yr Author comment_460425 Found a very similar rubber boot, you would have to drill out the center, and also there won't be a lip to hold onto the "nail head" I'll keep searching http://www.summitracing.com/parts/smp-s839 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50607-fuel-gauge-sending-unit-wiring-harness-terminals-and-rubber-covers/#findComment-460425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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