January 8, 201510 yr comment_461462 not to be a nuisance, but does anybody know if the aluminum 240 ashtray slider lid will fit the 280 console? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 8, 201510 yr comment_461467 not to be a nuisance, but does anybody know if the aluminum 240 ashtray slider lid will fit the 280 console?The 240 ones look wider to me. I'll measure them when I get home from work. Different years shown here, http://www.zcarsource.com/ashtray-240z-260z-280z_8_56380.html Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 8, 201510 yr comment_461479 And I'll throw my opinions into the mix with the ashtray stuff.... I'm no paint expert, but I would expect powder coat would be the most durable (and yes, clear powder coat is not unusual). Catalyzed polyurethane would probably be the next most durable. Other solutions will be less durable, but anything is better than what you started with right? SteveJ, Don't know if you've messed with the stuff before, but if you're using Evapo-Rust, make sure your parts are completely submerged. Don't try to do top half and then spin the part around a day later to get the other half. I've heard that bad things happen at the steel/chemical/air boundary. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 8, 201510 yr comment_461480 I tried soaking a large part in sections once. While one half was de-rusting, the other, already de-rusted, started rusting! It is better to treat the whole thing at once. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 8, 201510 yr comment_461504 The 240 ones look wider to me. I'll measure them when I get home from work. Different years shown here, http://www.zcarsource.com/ashtray-240z-260z-280z_8_56380.html They are bigger (240s) than the 280s. Just go ahead and buy a 240, you won't regret it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 8, 201510 yr comment_461513 hmmm... so i guess this was part of a subtle smoking cessation campaign? or did they just start making skinnier cigarettes? anyway, thanks for the measurements - i just may need to base my next car purchase on the ashtray... even tho i don't smoke! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 8, 201510 yr comment_461516 You know I was thinking, if it's bigger you could make it work? If you can find one.A lot of ideas come from those early morning meetings. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 9, 201510 yr comment_461517 SteveJ, Don't know if you've messed with the stuff before, but if you're using Evapo-Rust, make sure your parts are completely submerged. Don't try to do top half and then spin the part around a day later to get the other half. I've heard that bad things happen at the steel/chemical/air boundary. Actually I didn't have any problems when I did that to a seat rail. I did submerge the entire ashtray, though. I have some containers in the garage dedicated to dunking. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 9, 201510 yr comment_461527 They are bigger (240s) than the 280s. Just go ahead and buy a 240, you won't regret it. Back when I was comparing the 240 and 280 trays, I didn't notice a difference in width: http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/45678-ash-tray-trivia I noticed depth, but not width. More ash tray trivia? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 9, 201510 yr comment_461528 Actually I didn't have any problems when I did that to a seat rail. I did submerge the entire ashtray, though. I have some containers in the garage dedicated to dunking.Yeah, I'm not surprised. I went back and re-read where I had seen that and the guy who had the problem left the part in half-submerged for days. Etched a line at the interface. Theory is that the solution is water based and enables rust right at the interface, which is then removed by the solution as it occurs. So the part is converted from steel to rust to gone over and over right at the interface. But it appears that it doesn't occur quickly. Sounds like if you spin it after a day, you'll be OK, but don't let your part sit half submerged for days? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 9, 201510 yr comment_461532 Yeah, I'm not surprised. I went back and re-read where I had seen that and the guy who had the problem left the part in half-submerged for days. Etched a line at the interface.For something as big as a seat rail, I'd use the electrolytic rust removal method.EvapoRust is expensive and I only use it for small parts. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 9, 201510 yr comment_461538 Back when I was comparing the 240 and 280 trays, I didn't notice a difference in width: http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/45678-ash-tray-trivia I noticed depth, but not width. More ash tray trivia? I'll see if they're interchangeable between the 2 cars later today. There looks to be an extra 1/4" on the sides though. I'm seeing the body of the ashtray to be wider, not the lip. They look the same in my picture I was thinking about Geoff's comment on smaller smokes and remembered the first Pepsi/Coke 16oz resealable bottles with the styrofoam label. You could slide the label down an inch or so and hit the bottom with your hand and make a loud "POP". No wonder my Mom's so damn crazy, I drove her straight there. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50730-ashtray-re-do/?&page=3#findComment-461538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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