Posted February 13, 201510 yr comment_463502 Hi. I don't know too much about exhaust systems really, but I would like to make my otherwise stock 71 240z slightly louder or really just better sounding. Ideally this would be something simple like changing out the muffler (which I can easily put back on later). I want to keep it as stock as possible but whatever changes I make I can easily reverse. What is a good way to achieve this? Thanks! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 13, 201510 yr comment_463505 Muffler should be the quickest and easiest. Chuck Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 13, 201510 yr Author comment_463507 Hi Chuck. I'm having difficulty figuring out what size I'll need. What specification should I be Googling? Also, do you have any suggestions on a particular muffler or brand? I know Flowmaster is a good one. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 13, 201510 yr comment_463511 I'd get a stainless muffler. I have a local garage that does a lot of exhaust work and they have been able to recommend mufflers to me. See if you have a good exhaust shop in your area and see what they say. I'm not sure what the stock size is. Maybe 1 3/4"? Chuck Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 14, 201510 yr comment_463532 Sebring Tuning.... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 14, 201510 yr comment_463535 "They" say that a good modification for more power is a more free-flowing exhaust system, from the manifold back. The whole thing will drop down and drag out from under a jacked-up car, Then you can hang it from the rafters in your garage. You might consider that option. Bigger pipes, larger diameter anti-resonator in the middle and a free-flowing muffler. More power and better sound. Three nuts and some hanger bolts (hooks and rubber donuts if you do it right) and you're swapped. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 14, 201510 yr comment_463536 Go bigger. Mandrel bent SS system in 2.5" will make it sound meaner and actually improve performance. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 14, 201510 yr comment_463544 http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/classic19j/15-6302 Free shipping through the 16th. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 14, 201510 yr comment_463564 +1 on the header-back 2.5" system. i did this and am very, very pleased. sound is amazing and will make you feel like speed racer every time you pull past 4K rpm here's my thread on this - there are many others as well: http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/49967-2-12-shop-built-exhaust-sounds-great/?hl=2.5 bolt-up systems are available, but for the price you can get a custom setup fabbed and have it exactly like you want. find a good mom-&-pop muffler shop and you can do the whole thing for $200-$400 including the resonator in the tunnel, muffler and tip. alumanized steel is fine for the pipes, as they don't hold water much and will last plenty long - mandrel bent is best for free-flow, go with stainless resonator and muffler, as they are the first to rot out, then get a polished stainless tip which will look beautiful forever. much has been written about using a tip that turns down and sticks out a bit farther than the rear bumper to help get exhaust out of the airstream so it doesn't pull back into the cabin. lots of threads on this - of course a simple muffler swap will change the sound, but it's a pretty small step up to do the whole thing and be very, very happy. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 201510 yr Author comment_463609 +1 on the header-back 2.5" system. i did this and am very, very pleased. sound is amazing and will make you feel like speed racer every time you pull past 4K rpm here's my thread on this - there are many others as well: http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/49967-2-12-shop-built-exhaust-sounds-great/?hl=2.5 bolt-up systems are available, but for the price you can get a custom setup fabbed and have it exactly like you want. find a good mom-&-pop muffler shop and you can do the whole thing for $200-$400 including the resonator in the tunnel, muffler and tip. alumanized steel is fine for the pipes, as they don't hold water much and will last plenty long - mandrel bent is best for free-flow, go with stainless resonator and muffler, as they are the first to rot out, then get a polished stainless tip which will look beautiful forever. much has been written about using a tip that turns down and sticks out a bit farther than the rear bumper to help get exhaust out of the airstream so it doesn't pull back into the cabin. lots of threads on this - of course a simple muffler swap will change the sound, but it's a pretty small step up to do the whole thing and be very, very happy. Wow, I listened to your clips and was very impressed. I am tempted to take your pictures and description to an exhaust shop and tell them I want exactly that and ask for a quote. If they can actually do that for $200-400 then I'm down. Headers are expensive though so I have to consider that. I know better exhaust systems tend to increase performance. Would these changes make any kind of noticeable difference in power? Thanks! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 201510 yr comment_463626 the stock manifolds breath well - lots of folks race with them. save the $$ and do our exhaust from the collectors back.my system was about $400, i've read of others who spent much less. depends on where you are and what kind of shops are available. the good news is our cars have a really simple system - just a couple of bends and hangers and you're done. a better breathing exhaust can definitely be felt with the "butt dyno" but the sound is really the kicker for me! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 201510 yr comment_463628 Had a local muffler shop install a 2 1/4" pipe and "turbo" muffler, with the stock exhaust manifold and down pipe, on my '73 automatic. I made a bunch of zero to sixty mph runs, timed with a stopwatch, before and after. The new pipe improved it from mid-nines to low eights with no other changes. Definitely noticeable. Cost about $400. I gave the installers some rattle cans of prep spray and hi-temp exhaust paint; after they welded it up they painted it, before installing it. Might help prevent rust. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50944-want-slightly-louder-exhaust-without-changing-much/#findComment-463628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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