April 22, 20159 yr Author comment_468286 @blue Without a dyno, what I'm trying to think of is, what would cause engine stumble (not misfire or backfire), hesitation, and loss of power, under a load (running under power on the road) versus static revving? I'm willing to start from scratch. It's the load/no load that has me thinking. What engine systems fail under load, rather that at rest (running in driveway)? Will do the 3 steps I outlined above, but I'm thinking outside the box here. Thanks, Andy Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468297 A bad coil is a good example of failing under load. A restricted fuel line will also probably be fine in the driveway , but under load the fuel amount would be insufficient. My daughter's ZX turbo acted up mostly under load and would experience the symptoms you describe . I finally found an obstruction in the fuel sending unit that partially blocked flow. The tank was spotless, but something had lodged itself in the sending unit pipe and would close off fuel.I've also have seen a loose connection on a dizzy act this way. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468307 Another area that I don't see mentioned is the carb inlet screens and the float bowls. If the screens are badly clogged they may not pass enough fuel and the bowls get low on fuel causing bucking or debris in the bowls that moves around and clogs up the holes. Another long shot is a piece of bad fuel line, internally collapsed, possible the lines under the carbs (this is not regular old fuel line)C Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468311 Good point Charles . I have had those float bowl lines collapse on me. I've also seen the rubber lines back by the differential get hot enough to get gummy and collapse Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468320 Another area that I don't see mentioned is the carb inlet screens and the float bowls. If the screens are badly clogged they may not pass enough fuel and the bowls get low on fuel causing bucking or debris in the bowls that moves around and clogs up the holes. C1st page post #7 & #11. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468323 @blue Without a dyno, what I'm trying to think of is, what would cause engine stumble (not misfire or backfire), hesitation, and loss of power, under a load (running under power on the road) versus static revving? I'm willing to start from scratch. It's the load/no load that has me thinking. What engine systems fail under load, rather that at rest (running in driveway)? Will do the 3 steps I outlined above, but I'm thinking outside the box here. Thanks, AndyAndy, I had a similar problem, though probably not as severe as yours. There is a part on your dizzy called the "assy-terminal" mounted on the lip of the dizzy under the cap, part# 22403-18005. It is a white plastic isolator which makes the electrical connection to the dizzy. If you remove this white plastic part and inspect it for cracks or deterioration,you may find that with this type of deterioration, as old plastic is want to do, could be causing a random grounding issue causing this intermittent problem. Replacing this little plastic part solved my surging, bucking, power problem and may take care of yours. FWIW,Dan Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468326 Did that bad part make your tachometer gauge jump around? When I bought mine that part was hanging outside the distributor and the black wire wasn't connected so I had no tach at all. Grounded the black and it worked, didn't run right but the tach worked. I moved on to a remanufactured ZX distributor with electronic ignition. Not original but it cranks and runs much better. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468327 Did that bad part make your tachometer gauge jump around? When I bought mine that part was hanging outside the distributor and the black wire wasn't connected so I had no tach at all. Grounded the black and it worked, didn't run right but the tach worked. I moved on to a remanufactured ZX distributor with electronic ignition. Not original but it cranks and runs much better.The tach jumped only to reflect engine misfire due to the intermittent grounding problemwith this faulty isolator/connector assembly. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr Author comment_468341 Once again, thanks to everyone. I replaced the hoses from the bowls to carbs with factory OEM hoses 3 years ago. Will check again. Will inspect dizzy for the cracked insulator. I had a loose connection there once, and it was the screw holding the condenser and the terminal you describe. I also crimped on a new connector (cheap insurance). Then it's float bowl and screens. Then it's up on jack stands for sender unit and flex hose to tank inspection. I like the collapsing hose idea. Will report back before she goes on the jack stands. AW Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468345 Once again, thanks to everyone. . Will inspect dizzy for the cracked insulator. I had a loose connection there once, and it was the screw holding the condenser and the terminal you describe. I also crimped on a new connector (cheap insurance). AW Crimping and over-tightening screws could very easily crack this old, brittle, plastic insulator. I was amazed at how a little crack in this insulator caused such a profoundengine problem. This would be an easy fix for a few bucks, and I think you can still find these connectors through Nissan, but not positive. Dan Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 22, 20159 yr comment_468348 I think the problem is in the distributor, because you said in post 1 that when it starts acting up, and you check the points, it runs fine again for a while... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 23, 20159 yr comment_468366 Did you notice if the tach is very eratic as well when this happens?If so. Ignition for sure from my experience. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/51309-intermittent-loss-of-power-1972-240z-stock/?&page=5#findComment-468366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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