VIN/Engine number discrepancies

[HS30-H]

Originally posted by Zedrally

Now something that I think is interesting.

I was given a 260 2+2 on the weekend, not the best but ceratainly great as a donor/parts car.

What is interesting is its a 73 model # 10833 first registered in 76!

Would this be one of the first 2+2 made?

Hope Alan has his radar turned on!

MN

Hi Mike,

Actually, I don't have any data to hand about when the GRS30's VIN numbers actually started from - but this one does indeed sound like it would be one of the "First of the Few" ( to paraphrase Winston Churchill ).

Don't tell me you plan on saving it, as its such a rare survivor!

How come its a '73 model ( I thought they started in '74? ) and it was not registered until '76? Are you sure it was not a private-import Japanese-market model, brought in as "nearly new"? Curiouser and curiouser.

I'll never understand these bloody cars................

Alan T.

[Zedrally]

We had a few ales over this late yesterday.

It is a 73 and the numbers do match.

I've asked Jim to take a walk down to the bottom paddock and double check just in case!

Like you I'm baffled as to how or why this occured, one possible scerario is that they ran one assemby line for 2+2's and stopped when they had enough. [thats a 3 year supply, if one accepts this argument, the other may be colour, who knows]?

This would explain why it sat in Japan for 3 years before being sold.

Any one for any more?

[HS30-H]

Originally posted by Zedrally

one possible scerario is that they ran one assemby line for 2+2's and stopped when they had enough. [thats a 3 year supply, if one accepts this argument, the other may be colour, who knows]?

This would explain why it sat in Japan for 3 years before being sold.

Any one for any more?

Mike, that must have been strong stuff you were drinking........

The 2-seaters and 2+2's went down the same lines, and NISSAN never sat on a 3-year supply of ANYTHING.

The only time anything like that happened was with the 432's, when they pumped out a few more than they needed in '69 and '70 ( but that was for Homologation purposes - not commercial reasons ).

How do you know this 2+2 is a '73 model anyway? What's making you say that? I can't believe it sat in Japan for three years without being used ( that's why thought it might have been a Japanese-market model that was brought to Australia privately and not 'officially' imported ).

Some of us might think that the 2+2's are the ugly sisters of the family, but surely she didn't sit on the sidelines for three years before somebody asked her to dance?

I think you ought to look under her skirt and see if she's got any tell-tale markings of Japanese-market origins. Knoworrimean?

Christ, its nearly 3am. What on earth am I doing on here?!?!....

Alan T.

[Zedrally]

Hows this for a can of worms.

I think I'll rename it to a 1973 2+2 with a 260 engine!!

I'll await the info from the farm.

[have sent carrier pigeon]!

[Alfadog]

I think the thing wehave to prove here is the "1973" stamp. Like Alan said, how do you know it's a 1973?

[Zedrally]

Alfa,

as I wrote in the earlier post, I have requested more info. I'm really kicking myself now for not taking more notice yesterday, but after moving it and all the other bit's that came with it it was the last thing on my mind.

I know what I saw and this was witnessed by another knowledgable zed head. In fact I kept saying to him, this can't be, but it is.

I have asked him to scan the reg paper and send down.

Don't know when he'll get the message, so we need be patiant.

Certainly will open up a can of worms won't it!

[Zedrally]

Gee & Ben,

I also have a 73 240 [not this thing we're discussing], I'll post the numbers tomorrow and I'll split the thread as I didn't mean to contaminate your original.

[biker]

Thought I would add my 2 bobs worth.

I have a September 73 240Z which has a MPH speedo.

The metric system was introduced into Australia in 1971 tackling individual industries and the whole process targeted to be completed by 1982.

As with everything, it takes time and cannot be achieved overnight (we rest a lot over here). Manufacturers had several years to comply with the conversion which included speedo's and bolts/nuts.

:classic:

[Zedrally]

Originally posted by Ben

Gee,

What are the 2 sets of Chassis/Engine numbers?

My car is was ADR'd in Aug '73, orange, auto.

HS30-103353

L24 179014

Hi Ben,

These are mine

HS30-103305 [pretty close to yours]

L24 083870

same colour originally, manual.

[Zedrally]

I should have added, any other 73 HS30's around on this board?

Just reply to this with your details.

[Cuong Nguyen]

HI All,

My '73 is HS30 103471

L24 189407 (although not in the car anymore, but still have the engine and gearbox)

Green and manual from factory

[Mr Camouflage]

Originally posted by Zedrally

I have asked him to scan the reg paper and send down.

So the only place you saw a year for the car was on the rego papers? Whats the compliance plate say?

I expect its just a stuff up in licencing department records by some data entry person. Notice how the '3' and the '6' are right next to each other on the number pad.

The only way to get an approximate year of manufacture for an Aussie Z is to check the date on the compliance plate, which will tell you (month/year) when the car arrived in australia. Then you have to guess how long it took to get here on a boat, and how long it sat around in Japan before being loaded onto the boat. (yeah i'm guessing this. I asked this in another post about when compliance plates are fitted and what the date meant (build or compliance date) but havent had any replies, so untill anyone knows different i expect it happens like that).

Hey Gee How do your's and your friends chassis numbers compare. Is yours lower than his?

2/72

HS30 10527

MPH