TomoHawk Posted May 21, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 21, 2015 On my 1978- One of the plugs for the tail lamp harness seems to be going bad, and I would like to know if there is a source for replacements besides another Zed in the JY? Actually, I'd like a pair of plugs, just in case. It would be a shame to have to cut up a harness just for the plugs- unless someone has some in the junk box. thxZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted May 21, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 21, 2015 Have you got a pic of what it looks like? I'm sure I could find a pic with some searching, but you're the one looking, so you get the honors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Here is a photo for you. I think they are the same connector for both. There are some notches in the corners to orient the connector. I'd like two of these. Edited May 21, 2015 by TomoHawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted May 22, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Are the two mounting ears necessary? I (thankfully?) have never yet had to mess with the the tail lamps. Anyway, if the two mounting ears aren't important, it looks like Cycle Terminal has something close. http://www.cycleterminal.com/250-connectors.html Edited May 22, 2015 by Captain Obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanrussell Posted May 22, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) I have used Vintage Connections. Looks like the following will work- except for no mounts. MP6N Non-Latching Set6-pin 6.3mm (1/4") spade-based non-latching M/F Connector Shell Pair, with 7 each 18-16 AWG, M63/F63 crimp terminals. White Nylon. Directly replaces original Hitachi shells from the 1960s-1980s. http://vintageconnections.com/Click on the Prices button and scroll down to the MP6N item. Not the most modern web site. Edited May 22, 2015 by jonathanrussell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) I have not noticed any ears on the tail lamp connectors, but I think the ones for the gauges have them. Yes, I think those will be compatible, and I could even use one for the new center console wiring. Thanks for the help. If only you could get the 3-pin round connectors for the headlamps. Then you could make a truly 'plug-and-play' relay setup for the headlamps, instead of sacrificing the factory headlamp connectors. Edited May 22, 2015 by TomoHawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted May 22, 2015 Yes, I think cycleterminal has the headlamp connectors: http://www.cycleterminal.com/yazaki-ypc.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted May 22, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 22, 2015 No they don't. The later roundish style headlight connectors are actually FOUR cavity connector shells which only have three positions populated. And to make matters worse, two of the cavities accept a smaller crimp on contact, while the other two accept a larger contact. Cycle terminal does not offer that style, and I've not found it anywhere. The only thing I HAVE found (new) for sale is the smaller of the two crimp contacts. I got a couple spares of each (male and female) from Cycle Terminal a little while ago, but I've not turned up a source for the larger contact. I did buy some easily available larger contacts from Digi-key and while they might work in a pinch, they're not quite right. I can get them to click in and hold into the old contact shells, but they're not as good a fit as the original Yazaki contacts. Anyway, get the info out of me now because I just did a whole headlight relay and harness upgrade, so before I forget the details! When I get some time to breathe, I'll make up a thread about it, but I can't do that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Yeah, I think you're right. What would you call that? It's not the usual 4-pin connector, like the one for the vacuum solenoids. I also need some 2-pin sets for the turn signals- mine are getting funny. I was thinking that I might have to go to the JY to snip some headlamp connectors from a modern car... Then I could even get a set of spares, or order spares. I gotta get my time machine to work right some day soon. Edited May 22, 2015 by TomoHawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted May 22, 2015 Oh, Duh. The three-pin connector is for the front turn signals... I'm off the to JY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted May 22, 2015 Mr. Ford hath provided several connectors; one 4-pin from an Oxygen sensor, and a few three-pin connectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted May 23, 2015 Share #12 Posted May 23, 2015 Cool Got any pics of what you nabbed at the yard? Your intention is to swap them out for the original roundish headlight connectors? I toyed with the idea of getting rid of those roundish connectors completely and hardwiring the headlight connector pigtails right to the main harness. I was trying to minimize voltage drop and power losses in my headlight circuit and any connector is a source of some drop. The fewer connectors the better. In the end I kept them, but can get rid of them in the future if I change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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