siteunseen Posted August 12, 2015 Share #1 Posted August 12, 2015 Does anyone have any ideas on something I could use instead of buying the tool? I'm getting my ducks in a row and think I may need something to get these all the way down. From what I've read my fingers aren't tough enough. Thanks for any ideas.Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madkaw Posted August 12, 2015 Share #2 Posted August 12, 2015 Go to Hybridz and FAQ'S and look at the engine section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted August 12, 2015 Can I not put these viton seals on the guides then gently push the valve stems through? Seems easiest since they don't sit on the very bottom anyway. I could get the seals on first then put the condom over the stem tip and twist it through. Or should I do it the way tom monroe does the OE seals? Valves in then push the seal over the tip. Seems to me it's the same thing if the metal base of the viton fits tight onto the guides anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted August 12, 2015 Clarify my rambling.Can I put valve seals on first then push the valve stems in from the bottom?Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madkaw Posted August 12, 2015 Share #5 Posted August 12, 2015 I think the idea of having the valve in place is to use it as a guide to slide the seal on ( with the condom). I don't have actual experience but this is what I've read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted August 13, 2015 Thanks Madkaw. After a lot of reading, I can do it either way. I'm gonna measure how far down they can go without bulging the rubber at the top. Inner spring seats then the seals, valves next and so on. I had to add a new tool for the valve train work. Hands-free magnifying glass; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossiz Posted August 13, 2015 Share #7 Posted August 13, 2015 the groove in the valve stem that holds the collets (spring keepers) can be sharp enough to damage the sealing surface on the seals. the little plastic seal installer sleeve allows the seal to slide past this groove safely. correct clearance between your valve stem and guide shouldn't allow the valve to be inserted from below with the seal installer sleeve on. if the seals didn't come with an installer sleeve, you could probably make one out of a drinking straw - it's a pretty simple part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Thanks Rossiz but the seals I'm using have the metal base that can't be pushed down with your thumb. Most people use deep well sockets but I'm using a short piece of 1/2" PEX tubing. After seeing these I got the idea. Oh yeah, I've got the straw looking sleeves, cut in half, just enough to cover the stem's groove. I'm using Permatex assembly lube, that red stuff, and so far it's working great. I'm going oh so slow though. Edited August 13, 2015 by siteunseen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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