Posted August 18, 20159 yr comment_476002 Just took my car to the mechanic on saturday and lifted it on the elevator. Mechanic noticed one of the bushings of the left rear control arm was not installed properly and looks as it is bitten. Do i need to replace only the lower control arm bushing forward and rear? http://www.zcarsource.com/rearsusp-diagram.HTML Please advise as i do not want to purchase the wrong bushings! I have already replaced all the bushings contained in the Energy Suspension 7.18101R Hyperflex Master Kit for Datsun 240Z. Maybe the former mechanic istalled this one too tight! I am also thinking on sandblasting and painting these arms. If so what color and what is the correct procedure? Edited August 18, 20159 yr by jalexquijano Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr comment_476012 I can't tell on the bushing. It looks fine in the picture to me but maybe I am missing something. As for blasting the control arm. Blast them and paint them black or powder coat them black. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr comment_476025 It looks like the rubber in the picture is just a round washer-shaped seal at each end of the spindle pin , not a bushing. You can remove the nuts to inspect and make sure. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr Author comment_476051 I can't tell on the bushing. It looks fine in the picture to me but maybe I am missing something. As for blasting the control arm. Blast them and paint them black or powder coat them black.I do not have a sandblasting machine! I was planing on using a wire brush. Do you recommend any home non industrial sand blasting machine as the ones sold by amazon? http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-30-Pound-Capacity-Sandblaster/dp/B0000DD1C4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439999682&sr=8-1&keywords=home+sandblaster Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr comment_476063 I see the problem he has identified - it is the right side inner bushing that is damaged. Pulling off the outer nut will not show anything. The only way to be sure is to pull the spindle pin and separate the LCA from the upright. The damage likely occurred at the time the bushings were replaced - when the LCA was being positioned around the upright. With new bushings, this is a force fit requiring some lube and gentle working into place. As to painting or other refinishing, after cleaning be sure to thoroughly neutralize that rust with something like POR-15 Metal Ready or a similar phosphoric acid product before any paint is attempted. The POR product is good because it leaves behind a zinc oxide protective coating, ready for primer. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr comment_476064 Isn't that really just a dirt and dust seal? The actual bushing rubber is inside, between the bushing sleeve and the control arm. And the bushing sleeve is pressed against the strut casting by the spindle pin nut. The missing rubber will only allow a little bit of extra water and dirt in to an area that's probably already rusted. Probably not worth fixing. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr comment_476066 Isn't that really just a dirt and dust seal? The actual bushing rubber is inside, between the bushing sleeve and the control arm. And the bushing sleeve is pressed against the strut casting by the spindle pin nut. The missing rubber will only allow a little bit of extra water and dirt in to an area that's probably already rusted. Probably not worth fixing. This is my take on it as well. Not a big deal. If the bushing itself is bad there will be discernable play in the joint between the upright and the control arm. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr Author comment_476068 So should i replace the seals or not??? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr comment_476071 If there is not a lot of excess movement like the bushing is shot then some would say "no" Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 19, 20159 yr comment_476075 So should i replace the seals or not??? That depends on how you approach the cleaning and painting operation. If you are going to clean and paint in place, I see no need to replace the seal. If you are going to take it all apart to clean and paint you might as well replace the seal while you have it apart. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 20, 20159 yr comment_476084 Replacing the seal would require removing the spindle pins. It could turn in to a big job for a very small, if any, benefit. I'd say no, leave it as it is, it won't hurt anything. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-476084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 14, 20159 yr comment_477505 If the rubber bushings are replaced with the poly bushings, do you still install those rubber seals on the outside of the spindle pins, or are they not necessary? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52153-rear-control-arms-bushings-replacement/#findComment-477505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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